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    Rocky Moore
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    I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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      I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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      Nish Nishant
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      Rocky Moore wrote:

      if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod

      But the clone'd be far cheaper than an iPod. Bit like the IBM PC compatibles of the early 80s.

      Regards, Nish


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      • R Rocky Moore

        I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Rocky Moore wrote:

        It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left.

        "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." - Albert Einstein

        Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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        • R Rocky Moore

          I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

          Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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          Dan Neely
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          what I think is happening is that the brandX makers have all figured out that having a UI different than 90% of all the other mp3 players on the market is going to hobble their ability to gain market share. I've got a last gen sansa myself with the 4 triangle buttons in a square layout. The big chunky buttons work great when I want to skip a song while the player's in my pocket. That said, the UI on that model doesn't seem able to easily handle really large numbers of songs. There doesn't appear to be a way to navigate alphabetically while playing randomly, that doesn't require changing the shuffle order from random - sequential (make selection) - back to random. The fixed speed scrolling of the hold a button method doesn't work well with really large lists either.

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          • R Rocky Moore

            I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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            Joe Woodbury
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            Creative, SanDisk and iRiver make small players that don't follow the iPod model. (I have a 256MB SanDisk in front of my right now; now if I could only find the stupid USB cable!)

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            • R Rocky Moore

              I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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              Paul Watson
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              Rocky Moore wrote:

              Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next.

              Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides...

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

              Shog9 wrote:

              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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                dighn
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                There is an iRiver mp3 player like that. All screen then some controls on the side, out of sight. But I think those only go up to 2/4 GB.

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                  I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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                  Matt Newman
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                  How long were mp3 players around before the ipod? Quite sometime if I remember correctly, but the ipod made it a big buisness... Maybe they are on to something...

                  Matt Newman
                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                  • R Rocky Moore

                    I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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                    Brian Olej
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                    Personally i'd like the 2 gig MobiBlu b153. 153 hours of battery life may come in handy, and I also like the fact that its not exactly a pretty mp3 player, less likely to be stolen next to an Ipod. Here: http://www.mobibluamerica.com/b153.html[^] -- modified at 23:24 Monday 21st August, 2006

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                    • J Joe Woodbury

                      Creative, SanDisk and iRiver make small players that don't follow the iPod model. (I have a 256MB SanDisk in front of my right now; now if I could only find the stupid USB cable!)

                      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      Yeah, I have noticed that small devices do not, but most larger scale models with an screen of any size usually go after the iPod look. I will probably jump into the mp3 player market this fall for one of these smaller players which happen to be cheap compared to the larger ones ;)

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                        Rocky Moore wrote:

                        Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next.

                        Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides...

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides..

                        Yeah, if you want it taking up half the top of the device for just a couple simple functions... I would rather have screen space!

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                          There is an iRiver mp3 player like that. All screen then some controls on the side, out of sight. But I think those only go up to 2/4 GB.

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                          Rocky Moore
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                          Thanks.. Did some browsing and the http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/clix-2GB.aspx#[^] Looks pretty cool. That would store a number of podcasts ;) Be nice if it was a bit larger though more like letterbox. Old eyes :)

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                            How long were mp3 players around before the ipod? Quite sometime if I remember correctly, but the ipod made it a big buisness... Maybe they are on to something...

                            Matt Newman
                            Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                            Rocky Moore
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                            Yeah, Apple is "marketing"! They are cult growers ;) I remember on the Screen Savers show on the old TechTV, they had a review of different MP3 players and how less expensive players offered more space and features than the iPod at 25% - 50% less, but they still said they would take an iPod... You got to love marketing like that :) Same thing for iTunes.. Paid downloads sites have been around for years, but Apple does it, everyone claims they created it... Oh well, I only wish I had the knowledge of market spin that Apple does.. Of course,, I think MS wishes they had the cult growing ability also ;)

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides..

                              Yeah, if you want it taking up half the top of the device for just a couple simple functions... I would rather have screen space!

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                              So that the battery life will be less? Good idea. ;)

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                So that the battery life will be less? Good idea. ;)

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                Rocky Moore
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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                So that the battery life will be less

                                Guess we could shrink the display to one line of text and further extended the battery life eh? I would rather one about 3x5 inches with full screen and a decent battery (one that can be exchanged). ;)

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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  So that the battery life will be less

                                  Guess we could shrink the display to one line of text and further extended the battery life eh? I would rather one about 3x5 inches with full screen and a decent battery (one that can be exchanged). ;)

                                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  hehe. A replaceable battery would be nice. The iPod isn't perfect by any means but it is the best I have used. Also I don't see a need for a bigger screen. It is an MP3 player, not a video player and doesn't need a massive screen. (BTW I have the nano not the full-sized iPods.)

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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