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  • R Rocky Moore

    I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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    Dan Neely
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    what I think is happening is that the brandX makers have all figured out that having a UI different than 90% of all the other mp3 players on the market is going to hobble their ability to gain market share. I've got a last gen sansa myself with the 4 triangle buttons in a square layout. The big chunky buttons work great when I want to skip a song while the player's in my pocket. That said, the UI on that model doesn't seem able to easily handle really large numbers of songs. There doesn't appear to be a way to navigate alphabetically while playing randomly, that doesn't require changing the shuffle order from random - sequential (make selection) - back to random. The fixed speed scrolling of the hold a button method doesn't work well with really large lists either.

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    • R Rocky Moore

      I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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      Joe Woodbury
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      Creative, SanDisk and iRiver make small players that don't follow the iPod model. (I have a 256MB SanDisk in front of my right now; now if I could only find the stupid USB cable!)

      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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      • R Rocky Moore

        I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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        Paul Watson
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        Rocky Moore wrote:

        Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next.

        Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides...

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        • R Rocky Moore

          I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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          dighn
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          There is an iRiver mp3 player like that. All screen then some controls on the side, out of sight. But I think those only go up to 2/4 GB.

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          • R Rocky Moore

            I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

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            Matt Newman
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            How long were mp3 players around before the ipod? Quite sometime if I remember correctly, but the ipod made it a big buisness... Maybe they are on to something...

            Matt Newman
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            • R Rocky Moore

              I was reading about the new 8 gig sans flash mp3 player: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2006-08-21-sansa-announced_x.htm[^] and from the picture it is yet another iPod clone. It makes me wonder if there is any invovation left. I personally do not want a mp3 player with all the controls in a circle on the top surface of the device like the iPod, if I wanted that I would probably bought an iPod (actually still would not). I would rather see a device that is all screen on the top with some protective flip cover and possibly controls hidden under a flip or slide cover as well. Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next. With the fad of today, I doubt we will see such a player... :(

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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              Personally i'd like the 2 gig MobiBlu b153. 153 hours of battery life may come in handy, and I also like the fact that its not exactly a pretty mp3 player, less likely to be stolen next to an Ipod. Here: http://www.mobibluamerica.com/b153.html[^] -- modified at 23:24 Monday 21st August, 2006

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              • J Joe Woodbury

                Creative, SanDisk and iRiver make small players that don't follow the iPod model. (I have a 256MB SanDisk in front of my right now; now if I could only find the stupid USB cable!)

                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                Rocky Moore
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                Yeah, I have noticed that small devices do not, but most larger scale models with an screen of any size usually go after the iPod look. I will probably jump into the mp3 player market this fall for one of these smaller players which happen to be cheap compared to the larger ones ;)

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Rocky Moore wrote:

                  Only control I would need always available on the device is a volume, pause skip to previous, next.

                  Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides...

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                  Rocky Moore
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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides..

                  Yeah, if you want it taking up half the top of the device for just a couple simple functions... I would rather have screen space!

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                    There is an iRiver mp3 player like that. All screen then some controls on the side, out of sight. But I think those only go up to 2/4 GB.

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    Thanks.. Did some browsing and the http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/clix-2GB.aspx#[^] Looks pretty cool. That would store a number of podcasts ;) Be nice if it was a bit larger though more like letterbox. Old eyes :)

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                    • M Matt Newman

                      How long were mp3 players around before the ipod? Quite sometime if I remember correctly, but the ipod made it a big buisness... Maybe they are on to something...

                      Matt Newman
                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      Yeah, Apple is "marketing"! They are cult growers ;) I remember on the Screen Savers show on the old TechTV, they had a review of different MP3 players and how less expensive players offered more space and features than the iPod at 25% - 50% less, but they still said they would take an iPod... You got to love marketing like that :) Same thing for iTunes.. Paid downloads sites have been around for years, but Apple does it, everyone claims they created it... Oh well, I only wish I had the knowledge of market spin that Apple does.. Of course,, I think MS wishes they had the cult growing ability also ;)

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                      • R Rocky Moore

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Which is exactly what the iPod scroll wheel provides..

                        Yeah, if you want it taking up half the top of the device for just a couple simple functions... I would rather have screen space!

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                        Paul Watson
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                        So that the battery life will be less? Good idea. ;)

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                          So that the battery life will be less? Good idea. ;)

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                          Rocky Moore
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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          So that the battery life will be less

                          Guess we could shrink the display to one line of text and further extended the battery life eh? I would rather one about 3x5 inches with full screen and a decent battery (one that can be exchanged). ;)

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                          • R Rocky Moore

                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            So that the battery life will be less

                            Guess we could shrink the display to one line of text and further extended the battery life eh? I would rather one about 3x5 inches with full screen and a decent battery (one that can be exchanged). ;)

                            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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                            Paul Watson
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                            hehe. A replaceable battery would be nice. The iPod isn't perfect by any means but it is the best I have used. Also I don't see a need for a bigger screen. It is an MP3 player, not a video player and doesn't need a massive screen. (BTW I have the nano not the full-sized iPods.)

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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