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  • N Not Active

    I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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    Christopher Duncan
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    Then perhaps you should consider taking up citizenship elsewhere. There are no perfect nations.

    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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    • R Rob Manderson

      Shog9 wrote:

      hotdogs smothered in ketchup

      Believe it or not Sonya and I are planning to dine at a little cafe not far from here where they do the most amazing liver, onions and bacon! :)

      Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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      Stuart Dootson
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      Rob Manderson wrote:

      most amazing liver, onions and bacon!

      Mmmm - that's one of my favourites. As long as it's pigs liver, thinly sliced & floured and flash fried, it's gorgeous. Congrats on becoming American, Rob!

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      • R Rob Manderson

        started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

        Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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        Michael A Barnhart
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        Congrats, Rob!

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        • R Rob Manderson

          started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

          Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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          Christopher Duncan
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          Welcome! You're now every bit as American as the rest of us - everyone here is from somewhere else. Now get out there and chase that American dream! :-D

          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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          • N Not Active

            Ah, a true expression of the principles of freedom of speech. When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them. BTW, Hell is in Michigan. Been there. ;P


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            Christopher Duncan
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            Mark Nischalke wrote:

            BTW, Hell is in Michigan. Been there.

            :laugh:

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            • L Lost User

              Go to hell.

              =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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              Christopher Duncan
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              While I appreciate your sense of patriotism, you're not exactly representing your people in a particularly eloquent fashion.

              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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              • R Rob Manderson

                started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

                Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                Congratulations Rob, and welcome to citizenship! :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose: :jig: :rose:


                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  Then perhaps you should consider taking up citizenship elsewhere. There are no perfect nations.

                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                  Yes, this was the response I was expecting from someone. If you don't agree with us, then get out. To hell with acceptence and tolerance of other views. I think peter chen's reply was on the money.


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                  • R Rob Manderson

                    started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

                    Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Congratulations Yankee Rob :-)

                    Regards, Nish


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                    • R ResidentGeek

                      Congratulations, Rob! May you always remember the feelings you had today, and continue to exercise the responsibilities as well as the rights that citizenship provides with the same grace, calm and reason that you clearly are showing here today. Regards - Trish

                      Caffeine - it's what's for breakfast!

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      ResidentGeek wrote:

                      May you always remember the feelings you had today, and continue to exercise the responsibilities as well as the rights that citizenship provides with the same grace, calm and reason that you clearly are showing here today.

                      Nice :rose:.

                      ResidentGeek wrote:

                      Caffeine - it's what's for breakfast!

                      Indeed. Time to head downstairs for a refill.


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                      • L Lost User

                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                        . When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them.

                        I will not agree to insulting my own country (America). I wouldnt want to live anywere else.

                        =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Henize wrote:

                        I will not agree to insulting my own country (America). I wouldnt want to live anywere else.

                        Having US citizenship makes it easy to travel/work around the world. That's a good enough reason for people to try and get a US citizenship :-)

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                        • N Not Active

                          I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                          I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen?

                          Makes it easier to travel around the world, specially Europe (no Visa hassles).

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Mark Nischalke wrote:

                            I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen?

                            Makes it easier to travel around the world, specially Europe (no Visa hassles).

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                            Good point. That is why I was asking. At least your response was informative, and you didn't just tell me to go to Michigan (Hell) :)


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                              Then perhaps you should consider taking up citizenship elsewhere. There are no perfect nations.

                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                              If I'm ashamed that I didn't clean my house before company arrived, does that mean I should move to a new one?


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                              • N Not Active

                                Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.


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                                Rob Graham
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                                1. Your comments express a political opinion about the quality of this country, one which is contentious, and certainly not held by many others. As such, it belongs in the Soapbox. 2. Introducing your remarks with an appology (" I mean no offense") clear shows you knew many might well take offense, but felt your words were too important to remain unsaid. 3. If not rude, at least quite inappropriate. Tantamount to calling Rob M. an idiot for actually choosing to become a citizen. 4. If you don't like things as they are, get out and do something about it. Don't just sit around and whine; doing so just makes you part of the problem, not of the solution.

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                                • T Taka Muraoka

                                  JBurkey wrote:

                                  See how that works?

                                  Rubbish. Where was his personal attack on you? He said that he was ashamed of his country and the way that it has treated the rest of the world i.e. it's simply his opinion which he is both entitled to and free to state. Now, if you take it as a personal insult that somebody could possibly think that there is anything bad about your country, that's really your problem. His post simply stated his opinion, with no intent to offend (as opposed to yours).


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                                  And my objections are to the inapropriate place and time for thos comments, not their content. As you say he is entitled to his "the glass is half empty" opinions, but it is not appropriate to express them in response to a post celebrating becomming a citizen of that country. Even if introduced by a disclaimer, his comments are tantamount to telling Rob M. he thinks he's a fool for choosing to do so. At best a wet blanket, at worst an insult.

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                                  • A Allah On Acid

                                    I am glad everyone in the US is not like you.

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    I'm glad everyone in the US isn't like you. In fact I'm glad I have never actually met an American like you.


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                                    • N Not Active

                                      Ah, a true expression of the principles of freedom of speech. When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them. BTW, Hell is in Michigan. Been there. ;P


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                                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                                      There is also a Hell in Norway.


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                                      • N Not Active

                                        Henize wrote:

                                        You asking the new American why he would want to live here

                                        No, I asked why he chose to become a citizen, not why he wanted to live here. He was already living here.

                                        Henize wrote:

                                        insulting the country

                                        Again, where was the insult? I only said I was ashamed of the way the US treats others in the world. Why is my shame insulting to you?

                                        Henize wrote:

                                        I don't care for you smart ass remarks.

                                        Yes, the King of England didn't care for the remarks of Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and others, but the Declaration of Independence was signed anyway and you can see where that lead.


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                                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                        Yes, the King of England didn't care for the remarks of Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and others

                                        Just to be pedantic. At that point in history there was no King of England. There has never been a monarch of England since the 1st May, 1707.


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                                        • N Not Active

                                          Good point. That is why I was asking. At least your response was informative, and you didn't just tell me to go to Michigan (Hell) :)


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                                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                          and you didn't just tell me to go to Michigan (Hell)

                                          Or as they say in Scotland - Get tae Falkirk!


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