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  • P Paul Watson

    What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

    regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Shog9 wrote:

    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Percival Watson wrote:

    What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

    That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

    Thyme In The Country

    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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      Science removes the con from your conscience.


      "I know which side I want to win regardless of how many wrongs they have to commit to achieve it." - Stan Shannon Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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      Marc Clifton
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      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

      Science removes the con from your conscience.

      That is SO excellent! Marc

      Thyme In The Country

      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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      • P Paul Watson

        What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

        regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Shog9 wrote:

        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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        leckey 0
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        I haven't read the link yet, but I think it's very difficult to pick one thing. Discovery did this series with Bill Nye the Science Guy of the Top 100 Discoveries in several fields including biology, chemistry, physics, earth science, etc. Then they did a top 10 from the different shows. if i had to narrow it to one thing, I would say Genetics. It's a broad topic but there is so much about it that is fascinating.

        _________________________________________________________________ Dick Cheney looks like a high school calculus teacher with persistent heartburn.

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          Percival Watson wrote:

          What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

          That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

          Thyme In The Country

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Nah. I'll give it a 5 - to stoke up the flames a bit.:-D

          the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            I haven't read the link yet, but I think it's very difficult to pick one thing. Discovery did this series with Bill Nye the Science Guy of the Top 100 Discoveries in several fields including biology, chemistry, physics, earth science, etc. Then they did a top 10 from the different shows. if i had to narrow it to one thing, I would say Genetics. It's a broad topic but there is so much about it that is fascinating.

            _________________________________________________________________ Dick Cheney looks like a high school calculus teacher with persistent heartburn.

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            Paul Watson
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            Well thankfully the question was interpreted not as "what one field" but as "one underpinning of science in general" so most of the answers are along the lines of finding the truth, knowing that ultimately there is more, that hard graft is the basis, curiosity is important, that anyone can try and so on.

            regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Shog9 wrote:

            I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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              Percival Watson wrote:

              What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

              That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

              Thyme In The Country

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Paul Watson
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              I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

              regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Shog9 wrote:

              I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                Cooking is not a science.

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                Actually, there's a lot of science surrounding cooking. For example: Did you know that the gluten in cornflower cause liquid to bind, because molecules get stuck in the long strings formed by the gluten molecules? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten[^] There's a program on discovery science that shows a lot of interesting stuff about cooking.

                WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson

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                • P Paul Watson

                  What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

                  regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Well, the sequencing around this post has gotten really screwed up. What's going on Chris?

                  the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Percival Watson wrote:

                    What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

                    That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

                    Thyme In The Country

                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                    So what's your point? That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen. Way below your usual standard. D-

                    Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                      Well, the sequencing around this post has gotten really screwed up. What's going on Chris?

                      the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                      this post has gotten really

                      Having used the g-word, do you still expect that Chris will help you?

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        Science removes the con from your conscience.

                        That is SO excellent! Marc

                        Thyme In The Country

                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Thanks. I do try to say smart things every now and then. :-O


                        "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                          regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                          Marc Clifton
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                          Percival Watson wrote:

                          I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                          That's a very interesting question, in what would constitute "conclusive". But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy. :) Marc

                          Thyme In The Country

                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                            this post has gotten really

                            Having used the g-word, do you still expect that Chris will help you?

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            Having used the g-word

                            I believe in a higher power. Well, doesn't Chris qualify as a higher power?:-D

                            the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                            • P Paul Watson

                              I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                              regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                              Percival Watson wrote:

                              I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                              No. People's capacity for self delusion is unlimited. No matter what is discovered, there will be people that won't believe it. This is why there are people who believe that UFOs are regularly visiting Earth just to mess with hicks, that the US never went to the moon and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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                                Percival Watson wrote:

                                I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                                That's a very interesting question, in what would constitute "conclusive". But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy. :) Marc

                                Thyme In The Country

                                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy

                                Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God? I didn't take you for the type who thinks God micromanages the universe. I took you more for the type that thinks God create the universe and its rules and then let it run. In the latter dark matter and dark energy may exist and be found by science. In the former, not.

                                regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                  Percival Watson wrote:

                                  I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                                  No. People's capacity for self delusion is unlimited. No matter what is discovered, there will be people that won't believe it. This is why there are people who believe that UFOs are regularly visiting Earth just to mess with hicks, that the US never went to the moon and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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                                  Wjousts wrote:

                                  and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

                                  Sadly all the evidence shows the current American Idol had no evidence of becoming it.

                                  regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    Having used the g-word

                                    I believe in a higher power. Well, doesn't Chris qualify as a higher power?:-D

                                    the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                    CastorTiu
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                                    Do you want high power, chew a high tension power line. :-D

                                    -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy

                                      Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God? I didn't take you for the type who thinks God micromanages the universe. I took you more for the type that thinks God create the universe and its rules and then let it run. In the latter dark matter and dark energy may exist and be found by science. In the former, not.

                                      regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Percival Watson wrote:

                                      Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God?

                                      No, I was being genuine. There absolutely is a physical explanation for dark matter and dark energy. Marc

                                      Thyme In The Country

                                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                        So what's your point? That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen. Way below your usual standard. D-

                                        Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                                        That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen.

                                        I had no intention of stirring up a debate. I was just making a point, with regards to my opinion on the matter.

                                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                                        Way below your usual standard. D-

                                        I'm full of surprises. :) Marc

                                        Thyme In The Country

                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Percival Watson wrote:

                                          What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

                                          That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

                                          Thyme In The Country

                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                          Gary Kirkham
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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          without God, there would be no science.

                                          Amen :) I find it fascinating that some feel that God should somehow be able to be described or quantified by that which He created. It's kind of like trying to use a shadow to describe the inner depths of that which cast it.

                                          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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