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  • M Marc Clifton

    Percival Watson wrote:

    What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

    That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

    Thyme In The Country

    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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    Paul Watson
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    I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

    regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Shog9 wrote:

    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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      What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

      regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Shog9 wrote:

      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Well, the sequencing around this post has gotten really screwed up. What's going on Chris?

      the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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        Cooking is not a science.

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        WillemM
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        Actually, there's a lot of science surrounding cooking. For example: Did you know that the gluten in cornflower cause liquid to bind, because molecules get stuck in the long strings formed by the gluten molecules? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten[^] There's a program on discovery science that shows a lot of interesting stuff about cooking.

        WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Percival Watson wrote:

          What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

          That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

          Thyme In The Country

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Andy Brummer
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          So what's your point? That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen. Way below your usual standard. D-

          Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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            Well, the sequencing around this post has gotten really screwed up. What's going on Chris?

            the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

            this post has gotten really

            Having used the g-word, do you still expect that Chris will help you?

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

              Science removes the con from your conscience.

              That is SO excellent! Marc

              Thyme In The Country

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              Thanks. I do try to say smart things every now and then. :-O


              "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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              • P Paul Watson

                I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Shog9 wrote:

                I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                Marc Clifton
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                Percival Watson wrote:

                I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                That's a very interesting question, in what would constitute "conclusive". But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy. :) Marc

                Thyme In The Country

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                  Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                  this post has gotten really

                  Having used the g-word, do you still expect that Chris will help you?

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  Having used the g-word

                  I believe in a higher power. Well, doesn't Chris qualify as a higher power?:-D

                  the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                    regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                    Wjousts
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                    Percival Watson wrote:

                    I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                    No. People's capacity for self delusion is unlimited. No matter what is discovered, there will be people that won't believe it. This is why there are people who believe that UFOs are regularly visiting Earth just to mess with hicks, that the US never went to the moon and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Percival Watson wrote:

                      I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                      That's a very interesting question, in what would constitute "conclusive". But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy. :) Marc

                      Thyme In The Country

                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                      Paul Watson
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy

                      Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God? I didn't take you for the type who thinks God micromanages the universe. I took you more for the type that thinks God create the universe and its rules and then let it run. In the latter dark matter and dark energy may exist and be found by science. In the former, not.

                      regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                        Percival Watson wrote:

                        I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                        No. People's capacity for self delusion is unlimited. No matter what is discovered, there will be people that won't believe it. This is why there are people who believe that UFOs are regularly visiting Earth just to mess with hicks, that the US never went to the moon and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Wjousts wrote:

                        and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

                        Sadly all the evidence shows the current American Idol had no evidence of becoming it.

                        regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                          Having used the g-word

                          I believe in a higher power. Well, doesn't Chris qualify as a higher power?:-D

                          the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          CastorTiu
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                          Do you want high power, chew a high tension power line. :-D

                          -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            But for now, I'll sit back and enjoy watching science figure out things like dark matter and dark energy

                            Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God? I didn't take you for the type who thinks God micromanages the universe. I took you more for the type that thinks God create the universe and its rules and then let it run. In the latter dark matter and dark energy may exist and be found by science. In the former, not.

                            regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Percival Watson wrote:

                            Are you being genuine or are you hinting that science is on a wild goose chase and the answer is God?

                            No, I was being genuine. There absolutely is a physical explanation for dark matter and dark energy. Marc

                            Thyme In The Country

                            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                              So what's your point? That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen. Way below your usual standard. D-

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Andy Brummer wrote:

                              That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen.

                              I had no intention of stirring up a debate. I was just making a point, with regards to my opinion on the matter.

                              Andy Brummer wrote:

                              Way below your usual standard. D-

                              I'm full of surprises. :) Marc

                              Thyme In The Country

                              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Percival Watson wrote:

                                What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

                                That without God, there would be no science. Have at it, folks! Maybe someone will mark this as spam or abuse. :-D Marc

                                Thyme In The Country

                                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                Gary Kirkham
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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                without God, there would be no science.

                                Amen :) I find it fascinating that some feel that God should somehow be able to be described or quantified by that which He created. It's kind of like trying to use a shadow to describe the inner depths of that which cast it.

                                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                  What is the one thing everyone should learn about science?[^]

                                  regards, Percival Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                  code frog 0
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                                  That Paul = Percival?;P

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                                    Percival Watson wrote:

                                    I wonder if science will ever find a proof that is conclusive on God, one that every rational being will accept.

                                    No. People's capacity for self delusion is unlimited. No matter what is discovered, there will be people that won't believe it. This is why there are people who believe that UFOs are regularly visiting Earth just to mess with hicks, that the US never went to the moon and that they are the next American Idol, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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                                    Shog9 0
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                                    Wjousts wrote:

                                    that the US never went to the moon

                                    Fixed that for ya...

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      That's got to be the most Milquetoast attempt at stirring up some kind of religion vs science debate/flame I've seen.

                                      I had no intention of stirring up a debate. I was just making a point, with regards to my opinion on the matter.

                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      Way below your usual standard. D-

                                      I'm full of surprises. :) Marc

                                      Thyme In The Country

                                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      I was just making a point, with regards to my opinion on the matter.

                                      You bastard! :rolleyes:

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                                      • G Gary Kirkham

                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        without God, there would be no science.

                                        Amen :) I find it fascinating that some feel that God should somehow be able to be described or quantified by that which He created. It's kind of like trying to use a shadow to describe the inner depths of that which cast it.

                                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                        It's kind of like trying to use a shadow to describe the inner depths of that which cast it.

                                        That's an interesting way of looking at it, Gary. I'll have to remember that one, thanks.

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                                          Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                          It's kind of like trying to use a shadow to describe the inner depths of that which cast it.

                                          That's an interesting way of looking at it, Gary. I'll have to remember that one, thanks.

                                          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Check out this cutie The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                          Gary Kirkham
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                                          You're welcome.

                                          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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