I hate MSDN (the web version)

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Mike Dimmick wrote:

I think they're still using a hidden site:lab.msdn.microsoft.com search parameter with their Live Search engine.

:doh: Oh, wow. I mean, seriously? :~

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[Marc Clifton]

The MSDN web version has a search feature? :rolleyes: Marc

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[Gary Wheeler]

Yeah; it's called 'click-on-their-silly-assed-AJAX-enabled-tree-control-until-you-find-it'.

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[Mark Salsbery]

:omg: ouch

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[Psycho Coder Extreme]

jcdevnet wrote:

Funny thing is Google searches the MSDN library better than MSDN Does

Aint that the truth! The online MSDN is ungodly slow, I go to Google before I ever go to MSDN

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[Mark Salsbery]

Another Google vote from me. I always use Google to get to MSDN links. I generally append "microsoft" to my search strings to pull the MSDN2 hits to the top. Every once in a while I need to append "msdn" but generally "microsoft" works best. Mark

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[Eytukan]

jcdevnet wrote:

Funny thing is Google searches the MSDN library better than MSDN Does the first entry for the search points to the msdn library article

and still they want us to believe on Windows Live search.:sigh:

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[Roger Wright]

Use Google, then click on the link it provides to MSDN. That's the only way you'll ever find anything useful from Microsoft.

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[Kevin McFarlane]

Here's a strange thing. MSDN is supposedly now using Windows Live Search. If you enter your search directly in Live Search it returns results similar to Google. But if you enter it in MSDN search it coughs and splutters! :confused:

Kevin

[Dan Neely]

yep, just Google the following: vbCListCtrl site:msdn.microsoft.com

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[Member 96]

The whole msdn site has become a joke. It's been broken beyond any sense of usability for years now and clearly Microsoft doesn't give a damn or they would have fixed it a long, long time ago. Odd that any division of Microsoft would encourage use of Google but there is really no workable alternative.

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[David Crow]

Maximilien wrote:

I typed CDC::BitBlt in the google search box of Firefox, and the first link is the good one.

I searched MSDN for BitBlt(), and it was the sixth one in the result list. Still one click away. :confused:

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[RedZenBird]

Ballmer = Cheney The more power they get, the more it gets screwed up up... Oh I guess I'm on the no fly list now :)

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[Shog9 0]

Searching for CDC BitBlt and "CDC::BitBlt" also work. :) What's funny though, is that the autosuggest dropdown suggests cdc::bitblt - the query that doesn't work - when you start typing cdc... :rolleyes:

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[daniilzol]

Cached MSDN pages from google lose all formatting and are much harder to read.

[Mike Dimmick]

As I posted further up the thread, I think it's a hidden site:lab.msdn.microsoft.com search parameter. The content has now moved to msdn2.microsoft.com and the lab.msdn.microsoft.com references have aged out of the search index.

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[Stuart Dootson]

Jim Crafton wrote:

try looking up help with *nix man

It's not so bad with Bwana[^] on OS X - adds a 'man:' protocol handler, so you can enter (say) 'man:ls' into your browser of choice. Add on Safari 3's nice search and man becomes almost painless

[Michael Dunn]

When I'm in VC (2005 X|) and put the cursor on BitBlt and hit F1, MSDN pops up and searches for WTL::CDCT::BitBlt WHICH IS NOT THERE. ARGH. JUST SEARCH FOR BITBLT LIKE ANY SANE HELP SYSTEM. sorry.

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[Shog9 0]

Ha! yeah, i hate that too.

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[Bradml]

Jim Crafton wrote:

try looking up help with *nix man

Yes, yes I did. Loaded in less then a secound and told me what I wanted to know.

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