VS2008 stability [modified]

[Matthew Faithfull]

No, I haven't, thanks for pointing that one out. I guess I haven't had VS2005 open while connected to the internet for a while now so I may well have missed it on the News Channel. I'll give it a try but I'm not that hopeful. I think the problem is related to pre-caching of intellisense data for certain MS components which I quietly 'replace' in my project with custom ones. When the Intellisense scan hits a mismatch it either goes into a loop or gets stuck trying to change readonly data. Still VS2008 doesn't seem to have a problem so it must be fixable :)

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

[Rama Krishna Vavilala]

Yes the HTML designer crashes. In fact it behaves unpredictably sometimes like losing all the markup.

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[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

Interesting... a hotfix for a hotfix. Wouldn't that promote it to a hotdamnfix?

-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

[Paul Conrad]

Chris Maunder wrote:

seeing VS 2008 crash at least once every few days.

Hmmm, been using VS2008 regularly since March and haven't really noticed it crashing here. Even with Vista :suss:

"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

[Kevin McFarlane]

Chris Maunder wrote:

I can't remember the last time VS 2005 crashed.

Most definitely once every few days for me. I don't know how you manage a non-crashing VS 2005.

Kevin

[Kevin McFarlane]

To be frank, Find in Files was at its best in VC++ 5/6. Since then it's left a bit to be desired. I sometimes resort to TextPad's Find in Files instead which is better implemented. I also use Notepad++ but it's not as good as TextPad in this particular area.

Kevin

[Kevin McFarlane]

Have you ever had VS 2005 crash where it just disappears? No crash dialog, nothing. It's happened to me a few times. Spooky!

Kevin

[Shog9 0]

Beats me, but if VS2005 is craving cinnamon schnapps then it would certainly explain a lot... ...and raise additional, disturbing, questions...

Citizen 20.1.01

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

[Shog9 0]

Once or twice i think. Nothing i wouldn't readily blame on a lack of system resources though; VS tends to chew up a lot of GDI objects for instance, and if i end up with 20-30 Explorer windows open as well then everything starts getting sketchy... :sigh:

Citizen 20.1.01

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

[PIEBALDconsult]

I don't think I've ever had either crash. But I don't do Web. I also log out every day.

[Matthew Faithfull]

Hmm, not sure I'd agree with that I think it is slowly improving, VC++5/6 would spew error messages for every Unicode file often swamping the search results and rendering them useless and recent versions seem to be less inclined to pull the '0 files found' instant response trick that winds me up something terrible, especially when I can see at least one instance of my search term in an open saved file right in front of me and the tool claims it can't find it. It used to a happen as often as once or twice a day when I started out with VC6 but it's been a few weeks since I've had one with VS2005 and I don't think VS2008 Express has done it to me yet. Having said that VS2005 does occassionaly get lost while searching and never complete which I don't ever remember with VC6. At least it can be cancelled though. I also resort to Notepad++ on occassion but I've not really made use of search functions. I'll take a look next time. :)

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

[realJSOP]

I can't remember what I had for breakfast...

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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[Allen Anderson]

I've got a similar problem. I used to have the 'search in all solutions' field in the toolbar area in previous versions of vs.net. Now for the life of me I can't figure out how to get it there again. And I have looked.... :(

[Rob Graham]

You need to eat better breakfasts...

[Gary Wheeler]

I remember what I had for breakfast; a bowl of cereal. Of course, that's what I've always eaten for breakfast, so I might be remembering breakfast from ten years ago.

Software Zen: delete this;

[Gary Wheeler]

Shog9 wrote:

turn off the "treat warnings as invitation to kill my family" option

Do they at least let you choose which family they kill?

Software Zen: delete this;

[Bassam Abdul Baki]

Reminds me of Seinfeld: "Why don't you just tell me the name of the files."

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[Joe Woodbury]

At my work, we recently had a conversation about VS 2005 stability. It seems that on some systems doing some tasks, it will crash quite often. Yet, for others of us, it's either never crashed or crashed once in a way that can't be directly attributable to something specific (like working with Windows Mobile and having it go freaky while doing an ActiveSync transfer or by terminating a debug session wrong.) One common thread is the people with the most crashes are doing ASP.NET development using Dell Vostro thin systems. Those with the least are doing more C++ and .NET client development on non Vostro systems. My guess is that it has to do with video drivers and something with UI elements specific to ASP.NET. My second guess is that it's some sort of add-on that the ASP people are using but which the others of us aren't.

Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

[Michael Dunn]

At my current job, I've used 2005 a lot and aside from being dog-slow at building the NCB file (which I've come to expect) it's actually been quite stable. I still wouldn't want to write a big project from scratch in it though due to all the usability annoyances.

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[Mycroft Holmes]

Marc Clifton wrote:

yes, this file contains the string

Thank you for that, I needed a chuckle this morning. Reminds me of what a BA told me when working with Japanese, their answer of "yes" actually means yes they heard you, not that they understood what you said.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH