VS2008 stability [modified]

[Kevin McFarlane]

Have you ever had VS 2005 crash where it just disappears? No crash dialog, nothing. It's happened to me a few times. Spooky!

Kevin

[Shog9 0]

Beats me, but if VS2005 is craving cinnamon schnapps then it would certainly explain a lot... ...and raise additional, disturbing, questions...

Citizen 20.1.01

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

[Shog9 0]

Once or twice i think. Nothing i wouldn't readily blame on a lack of system resources though; VS tends to chew up a lot of GDI objects for instance, and if i end up with 20-30 Explorer windows open as well then everything starts getting sketchy... :sigh:

Citizen 20.1.01

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

[PIEBALDconsult]

I don't think I've ever had either crash. But I don't do Web. I also log out every day.

[Matthew Faithfull]

Hmm, not sure I'd agree with that I think it is slowly improving, VC++5/6 would spew error messages for every Unicode file often swamping the search results and rendering them useless and recent versions seem to be less inclined to pull the '0 files found' instant response trick that winds me up something terrible, especially when I can see at least one instance of my search term in an open saved file right in front of me and the tool claims it can't find it. It used to a happen as often as once or twice a day when I started out with VC6 but it's been a few weeks since I've had one with VS2005 and I don't think VS2008 Express has done it to me yet. Having said that VS2005 does occassionaly get lost while searching and never complete which I don't ever remember with VC6. At least it can be cancelled though. I also resort to Notepad++ on occassion but I've not really made use of search functions. I'll take a look next time. :)

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[realJSOP]

I can't remember what I had for breakfast...

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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[Allen Anderson]

I've got a similar problem. I used to have the 'search in all solutions' field in the toolbar area in previous versions of vs.net. Now for the life of me I can't figure out how to get it there again. And I have looked.... :(

[Rob Graham]

You need to eat better breakfasts...

[Gary Wheeler]

I remember what I had for breakfast; a bowl of cereal. Of course, that's what I've always eaten for breakfast, so I might be remembering breakfast from ten years ago.

Software Zen: delete this;

[Gary Wheeler]

Shog9 wrote:

turn off the "treat warnings as invitation to kill my family" option

Do they at least let you choose which family they kill?

Software Zen: delete this;

[Bassam Abdul Baki]

Reminds me of Seinfeld: "Why don't you just tell me the name of the files."

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[Joe Woodbury]

At my work, we recently had a conversation about VS 2005 stability. It seems that on some systems doing some tasks, it will crash quite often. Yet, for others of us, it's either never crashed or crashed once in a way that can't be directly attributable to something specific (like working with Windows Mobile and having it go freaky while doing an ActiveSync transfer or by terminating a debug session wrong.) One common thread is the people with the most crashes are doing ASP.NET development using Dell Vostro thin systems. Those with the least are doing more C++ and .NET client development on non Vostro systems. My guess is that it has to do with video drivers and something with UI elements specific to ASP.NET. My second guess is that it's some sort of add-on that the ASP people are using but which the others of us aren't.

Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

[Michael Dunn]

At my current job, I've used 2005 a lot and aside from being dog-slow at building the NCB file (which I've come to expect) it's actually been quite stable. I still wouldn't want to write a big project from scratch in it though due to all the usability annoyances.

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[Mycroft Holmes]

Marc Clifton wrote:

yes, this file contains the string

Thank you for that, I needed a chuckle this morning. Reminds me of what a BA told me when working with Japanese, their answer of "yes" actually means yes they heard you, not that they understood what you said.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

[JamesHurst]

The release version - not at all. But once I installed the SP1 Beta, it crashes about once a day. Sometimes erratically, and there is one pattern that reproduces consistently: whenever I try to change the command-line argument for it to pass to my program on launch, VS 2008 simply disappears instantly. Thus I'm utterly unable to set launch options. :^)

James Hurst "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
Mahatma Gandhi

[Priyatam K]

Chris Maunder wrote:

Is it just me? [Frown]

Yes...just you ;P

[Robsie]

I had 4 or more lockups a day for around 3 weeks when doing ASP.NET development, not only would it lock up, but in the wonderful wisdom embedded into vista, I couldn't kill it. Sometimes it would be WebDev, sometimes the IDE. I had to reboot, which took forever as vista was still waiting for the "Gracefull" exit. :mad: It turned out that not long before then I had installed zone alarm basic / free version. I should have put two together sooner, but in an attempt to rid myself of the problem I removed not only zone alarm but avast. I replaced them with the free comodo firewall and have not had a lock up since. I believe it was zone alarm that caused the problem. Just thought this may help you, also I have installed the VS2008 hotfix rollup which has fixes for ASP.NET dev. nJoy.

[pg az]

Marc Clifton wrote:

Oh good grief. I have to actually set this behavior as an option? [Sigh]

An occasionally useful one - I just searched all of my files to see which ones contained any "ifdef", not wanting to see the details of each file. With a "pipe" option I could write a macro to see which files contained NO ifdefs... "Extensibility" in other words beats exhaustively implementing all possible options, well at least Microsoft is partially there with the add-ins and stuff. But to straightforwardly be able to tweak the find-in-files, how often would THAT be cool ?

pg--az

[pg az]

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

tend to get very cranky on the fortunately fairly rare occassions when it tells lies

About a week ago find-in-files totally broke - it would ALWAYS say something like "search stopped at user request", and say that IMMEDIATELY. So I rebooted with a "chkdsk" and doing that and nothing else completely repaired whatever the problem was. At a guess the chkdsk was needless and it was merely some internal-memory-corruption - anyway if it happens to YOU, don't have a heart attack, just reboot. I was panicked myself, I had no idea whether a complete reinstall would be needed - like Joel says 'users so often reinstall when they accidentally tweak system settings, because they know how to do that better than they know how to isolate what they tweaked'.

pg--az

[christhecoder]

I had a similar problem on my old work machine doing .NET Compact Framework development, except it crashed every 15 minutes. VS2005 was fine on that machine, but doing anything in the forms designer in VS2008 on the same machine kept crashing it or taking 3 minutes to sort itself out with every change I made (eg. when I dropped a control on the form or changed a property). Since it was a .NET CF 3.5 project I was working on it was a very painful project to do. But I couldn't find other machines with the same problem or any report about it on the web so it must have been something to do with the configuration of my machine or the software I had installed. I was happy when that project was over. Chris Anderson Peer Placements My Blog