I dont feel like going back to work...
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What's wrong with it? Useless isn't the same as wrong.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
But where's the line between useless and wrong? I mean, you start here:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
Then here...
Debug.Assert(a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);
And somehow you end up here...
while (true)
{
if ((a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp) == true)
{
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
break;
}
}
return (a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);And then it starts to get a little weird.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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as my 'team leader' does not why the following wrong:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp; // no funny side-effects, plain old property
And then he asked me not to criticize him... :wtf:
xacc.ide
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Time to go crazy upside his ass Leppie blood. Giv' dat ho a biatch slapping boyie.... oh, sorry, had some rap music on in da the background. Ahem. Politely remind him that he's a tw*t.
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
Politely remind him that he's a tw*t.
How's that going to work? The correct approach is: "Oy! Gonad chops! Stop #slap# being #slap# such #slap# a #slap# tw*tting #slap# tw*t #slap# !!" ...and breath.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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But where's the line between useless and wrong? I mean, you start here:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
Then here...
Debug.Assert(a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);
And somehow you end up here...
while (true)
{
if ((a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp) == true)
{
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
break;
}
}
return (a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);And then it starts to get a little weird.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
lol maybe the compiler optimizes that away tho? still pointless, but amusing at the same time. Was it auto-generated?
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
Politely remind him that he's a tw*t.
How's that going to work? The correct approach is: "Oy! Gonad chops! Stop #slap# being #slap# such #slap# a #slap# tw*tting #slap# tw*t #slap# !!" ...and breath.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
The correct approach is:
Aahhh, I see you've dished out a few 'get real' beatings seminars before I must learn...
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
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But where's the line between useless and wrong? I mean, you start here:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
Then here...
Debug.Assert(a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);
And somehow you end up here...
while (true)
{
if ((a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp) == true)
{
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp;
break;
}
}
return (a.SomeProp == a.SomeProp);And then it starts to get a little weird.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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BonshatS wrote:
Maybe he just wanted to be sure it was initialized.
This is him exactly! http://www.geekherocomic.com/2009/07/27/common-pitfalls-initialize-your-variables/[^]
xacc.ide
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as my 'team leader' does not why the following wrong:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp; // no funny side-effects, plain old property
And then he asked me not to criticize him... :wtf:
xacc.ide
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((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))What I don't get is, given your technical excellence and all that jazz, why you aren't the team leader? Mumbler? Strange body odour? Shy? Unwilling/unable to shout at management types and make demands?
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
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BonshatS wrote:
Maybe he just wanted to be sure it was initialized.
This is him exactly! http://www.geekherocomic.com/2009/07/27/common-pitfalls-initialize-your-variables/[^]
xacc.ide
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((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))):-D
You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.
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What I don't get is, given your technical excellence and all that jazz, why you aren't the team leader? Mumbler? Strange body odour? Shy? Unwilling/unable to shout at management types and make demands?
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
hehe... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle[^] arf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert_Principle[^]
You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.
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as my 'team leader' does not why the following wrong:
a.SomeProp = a.SomeProp; // no funny side-effects, plain old property
And then he asked me not to criticize him... :wtf:
xacc.ide
IronScheme - 1.0 beta 4 - out now!
((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))Early in my career, I once made a mistake of commenting a line of code, that broke the whole application. Here is how it looked like:-
void BalanceInvoice(int x, int y , int z)
{
MyInvoiceObject* p = new MyInvoiceObject(x, y, z);
delete p;... Do other stuff that ran 200 lines ...
}I commented the first line thinking it was useless. Turns out that the constructor and only the constructor did the main work. I hope your team leader does not write like that.
public object SomeProp
{
get
{
return 0;
}
set
{
... Connect to database ...
... Call a web service ...
... Do all the other important stuff required in the application ...
}
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What I don't get is, given your technical excellence and all that jazz, why you aren't the team leader? Mumbler? Strange body odour? Shy? Unwilling/unable to shout at management types and make demands?
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
martin_hughes wrote:
why you aren't the team leader
Probably because of his technical excellence.
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
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What I don't get is, given your technical excellence and all that jazz, why you aren't the team leader? Mumbler? Strange body odour? Shy? Unwilling/unable to shout at management types and make demands?
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
Because he was the clown that wrote up a quarter-assed client functional requirement spec. It lacks about 70% of the requirements. And somewhere inside his skull that info still lives (or rots). Please note, this 'client spec' is the only thing our team has to go on, and consistently the client complains about missing functionality. Professionally, I have been trying to avoid taking responsibility for someone else's fuckups, but it seems there is no other way now. Bottom line is, I dont wanna do anything, while he has write-access to the code. he has been spending the last 6 weeks working on something that should have taken 3 days max, given most of the code was copied from somewhere else on the internet (like pretty much all of his code, copies of other people's code, and mine...).
xacc.ide
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Early in my career, I once made a mistake of commenting a line of code, that broke the whole application. Here is how it looked like:-
void BalanceInvoice(int x, int y , int z)
{
MyInvoiceObject* p = new MyInvoiceObject(x, y, z);
delete p;... Do other stuff that ran 200 lines ...
}I commented the first line thinking it was useless. Turns out that the constructor and only the constructor did the main work. I hope your team leader does not write like that.
public object SomeProp
{
get
{
return 0;
}
set
{
... Connect to database ...
... Call a web service ...
... Do all the other important stuff required in the application ...
}
}Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple. I can code fresh code faster than trying to understand what his code is attempting to do.
xacc.ide
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Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple. I can code fresh code faster than trying to understand what his code is attempting to do.
xacc.ide
IronScheme - 1.0 beta 4 - out now!
((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))leppie wrote:
Side-effects are evil.
Yes as I said I broke the main logic an entire application commenting out what I thought was useless.
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Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple. I can code fresh code faster than trying to understand what his code is attempting to do.
xacc.ide
IronScheme - 1.0 beta 4 - out now!
((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))leppie wrote:
Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple.
But isn't that the worst thing about AOP, that you don't know what side effects might be introduced? Marc
I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner
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leppie wrote:
Side-effects are evil.
Yes as I said I broke the main logic an entire application commenting out what I thought was useless.
But do not worry, there are cases when it is legitimate to comment out some unused/unnecessary code. But what your post shows, the worst the code is, the harder to choose what to comment out.
You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.
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leppie wrote:
Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple.
But isn't that the worst thing about AOP, that you don't know what side effects might be introduced? Marc
I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner
I always wonder why clean functional programming is not more common?
You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.
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Because he was the clown that wrote up a quarter-assed client functional requirement spec. It lacks about 70% of the requirements. And somewhere inside his skull that info still lives (or rots). Please note, this 'client spec' is the only thing our team has to go on, and consistently the client complains about missing functionality. Professionally, I have been trying to avoid taking responsibility for someone else's fuckups, but it seems there is no other way now. Bottom line is, I dont wanna do anything, while he has write-access to the code. he has been spending the last 6 weeks working on something that should have taken 3 days max, given most of the code was copied from somewhere else on the internet (like pretty much all of his code, copies of other people's code, and mine...).
xacc.ide
IronScheme - 1.0 beta 4 - out now!
((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))I wondered were my boss had got to! But as am in a kind mood, you can keep him. ;)
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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leppie wrote:
Side-effects are evil. Learn to appreciate that, and code becomes dead simple.
But isn't that the worst thing about AOP, that you don't know what side effects might be introduced? Marc
I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner
Marc Clifton wrote:
But isn't that the worst thing about AOP, that you don't know what side effects might be introduced?
That's the problem with age old pensioners, very unpredictable :) (sorry, im trying to cheer myself up)
xacc.ide
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((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))modified on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:02 AM