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When will MS axe XP support?

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  • T Todd Smith

    By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

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    JimmyRopes
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    Todd Smith wrote:

    By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

    An excellent reason to upgrade. I remember when WinXP SP1 came out and people were grousing about if they should install it or not. I always pointed out the gazillion security updates they would have to install manually if they didn't update. That usually motivated them to install the service pack.

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    • D Dave Parker

      Pah, I still run a combination of XP, Windows 95, Amiga OS 3.0 and Amiga OS 1.3 depending on what I'm doing. What does XP support mean anyway? Is it something to do with product activation or getting new licenses? Could always go back to Win 2000 I guess.

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      Nemanja Trifunovic
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      Dave Parker wrote:

      What does XP support mean anyway?

      Security updates, drivers, service packs...

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      • L Lost User

        Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux :)

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        harold aptroot wrote:

        Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux

        Linux (the kernel) is pretty secure these days, but you usually want more than the kernel and that's when the problems start. A typical Linux desktop distro is no more secure than Windows.

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Joe Woodbury wrote:

          For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K.

          This is a point I bring up whenever someone says they they don't want to move forward. I ask them if they would prefer to be using the 3.11 interface. Products evolve, usually for the better.

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          I still use XP, partly because it keeps me in sync. with things at work and partly because no sooner is Weven out then there is talk aobut the NEXT Windows.

          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Nope - I dumped all my 16-bit stuff when I moved to Win64 (a couple of years ago).

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            How did you find that transition? I'm considering installing Weven-x64, but I can remember reading quite a few bad reviews of XP-x64 a few years ago (mostly about bad device drivers.) Have you experienced anything like those problems?

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              How did you find that transition? I'm considering installing Weven-x64, but I can remember reading quite a few bad reviews of XP-x64 a few years ago (mostly about bad device drivers.) Have you experienced anything like those problems?

              Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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              Ed Poore
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              Used both Vista x64 and Weven x64 and no issues bar an obscure GPS driver. In fact I never had problems with Vista. I think largely because I was running a x64 bit one (which appears to be a bit faster on the same machine [64 bit capable]) and made sure all the 64 bit drivers were available for my hardware.


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              • 0 0x3c0

                How did you find that transition? I'm considering installing Weven-x64, but I can remember reading quite a few bad reviews of XP-x64 a few years ago (mostly about bad device drivers.) Have you experienced anything like those problems?

                Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                Well, I switched to XP64 a couple of years ago, and the only thing I really miss is Jezzball. An no, I'm not interested in the Flash version of it. Most modern hardware has XP64 bit and Vista64 bit drivers available, I haven't had any hiccups, even with my printers or my laptop.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux

                  Linux (the kernel) is pretty secure these days, but you usually want more than the kernel and that's when the problems start. A typical Linux desktop distro is no more secure than Windows.

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                  Pierre Leclercq
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                  Let me introduce you to the safest kernel on earth:

                  void main()
                  {
                  printf("Hello World!");
                  return 0;
                  }

                  ;)

                  You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Dave Parker wrote:

                    What does XP support mean anyway?

                    Security updates, drivers, service packs...

                    Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                    Pierre Leclercq
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                    So this means an entire team shall be disbanded and re-allocated at this time. Wonder wether they'll do a big feast, burn some straw man or what. :)

                    You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                    • T Todd Smith

                      Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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                      Todd Smith wrote:

                      I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

                      Haven't you seen the new commercials? They feature "average people" gushing about how cheap PCs are. Look for one featuring an elderly woman on a fixed income to air shortly...

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Long after the end of the Mayan calendar. Given that fact, I doubt any of us will live to see Microsoft stop shipping XP.

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        Long after the end of the Mayan calendar.

                        Hi John, I have just read that Microsoft is currently early alpha-ing a preview of "Mayan Calendar Vista Aero" to selected developers under strictest NDA's. Supposedly this is a smokescreen designed to hide the fact that the real product "Mayan Calendar Eleven Aero Lunar" will ship with Weven, and will last at least until the first Weven service pack at which point the user can upgrade via payment of US $66 dollars, or make a video of them sacrificing a virgin to the moon Goddess, Coyolxauhqui. A unique feature of Mayan Calendar Eleven Aero Lunar" is the extension of working days into holidays, so that all holidays become transparent, and cease to exist. Also the traditional "nag" feature has been replaced by a new secret software feature called the "carp" feature. I have it on good authority that Christian Graus is working sub-rosa, with MS on this project, and that many of his posts here are actually probes. best, Bill

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                        • T Todd Smith

                          By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

                          Todd Smith

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                          dmitri_sps
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                          Todd Smith wrote:

                          patches for security related issues

                          If one has a firewall on their router, and uses Mozilla instead of Outlook and IE, I doubt an average person should be concerned about security patches.

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                          • L LloydA111

                            I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:

                            If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...

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                            Plamen Dragiyski
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                            512MB of RAM just to run operating system (for win7) compared to 32MB of RAM to run XP is just terrible. How could one operating system still be operating system, since it uses so much memory? Even with better PC, win7/vista do much more work, than normal OS must normally does. Now we are all starting to give tip and trick for their optimization. Anyway win98 was not stable, but XP is.

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                              I still use XP, partly because it keeps me in sync. with things at work and partly because no sooner is Weven out then there is talk aobut the NEXT Windows.

                              Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                              Did you say NeXT Windows?

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                              • H Henry Minute

                                I would think that by the time Weven overtakes XP the extra resources required will be standard for low end machines. The Grannies et al. can and will continue to run XP regardless, until their machines expire that is. That's when the trouble will start, for any one with a Silver-Surfer in the family, I can just hear the support calls now.

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                Steve Thresher
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                                Henry Minute wrote:

                                I would think that by the time Weven overtakes XP the extra resources required will be standard for low end machines.

                                I think that's already the case. Can't remember the last time I saw a new machine spec with less than 1GB of RAM.

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

                                  Maybe you don't have any hanging around but support for 16 bit programs is probably the main consideration.

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                                  Steve Thresher
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                                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                    It is because it evolves over a period of time. When something has evolved, and is very stable, MS comes out with another version which isn't as good.

                                    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                    Steve Thresher
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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                    MS comes out with another version which isn't as good

                                    Windows 7 is at least as good as XP!

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                                      512MB of RAM just to run operating system (for win7) compared to 32MB of RAM to run XP is just terrible. How could one operating system still be operating system, since it uses so much memory? Even with better PC, win7/vista do much more work, than normal OS must normally does. Now we are all starting to give tip and trick for their optimization. Anyway win98 was not stable, but XP is.

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                                      Steve Thresher
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                                      IlluminateBG wrote:

                                      512MB of RAM just to run operating system (for win7) compared to 32MB of RAM to run XP

                                      Where did you get those figures from? I started with 128MB on XP and had to upgrade to 256MB and then to 512MB to make the machine responsive while developing.

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                                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                        harold aptroot wrote:

                                        Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux

                                        Linux (the kernel) is pretty secure these days, but you usually want more than the kernel and that's when the problems start. A typical Linux desktop distro is no more secure than Windows.

                                        Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                                        Steve Thresher
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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                        A typical Linux desktop distro is no more secure than Windows.

                                        Yes it is! What hacker / virus writer would target an O/S run by less than 10% of users when you could target an O/S used by more than 90% of users.:)

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                                        • S Steve Thresher

                                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                          MS comes out with another version which isn't as good

                                          Windows 7 is at least as good as XP!

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                                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                          I agree. I like 7 very much as well. But my reply was to defend the whole of the mass who hated Vista in specific (which includes me). :)

                                          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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