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  • T Todd Smith

    What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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    Brady Kelly
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    StartDate nvarchar(20) default ''

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Actually, I'd rather like the with statement as well.

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      Brady Kelly
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      I got over that very quickly and now can't figure why people miss it. Just use a short named local.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Parts of it - you can't do method invocation with it.

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        Brady Kelly
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        You can use an initialiser for your Nodes collection as well.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Extension Method.

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          Are you mad Sir?

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I mean - it's a pretty awful thing to wish upon a developer...

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Brady Kelly
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            I like writing documents. :)

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              Are you mad Sir?

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              (There was supposed to be some sexual connotation in there. :~ ) But I do dislike the prolific use of the things.

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              • T Todd Smith

                What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                dazfuller
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                Anything where there is a comment reading something like

                // This is a temporary fix, remove as soon as possible

                But it's still in there 3 years later!

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:

                  int num = Num + NUM;

                  Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                  codemunkeh
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                  You so could write it like that in VB. But it would be tantamount to num *= 2 err I mean num = num * 2 Curses to VB and it's lack of shorthand arithmetic operators!


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                  • T Todd Smith

                    What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                    reshi999
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                    Interoperability

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      (There was supposed to be some sexual connotation in there. :~ ) But I do dislike the prolific use of the things.

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      Prolific maybe, but between them and partial classes, I get quite extended.

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                      • T Todd Smith

                        What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                        ian__lindsay 0
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                        Showing my age here: - anything in setjmp.h - ie setjmp, longjmp, etc basically a goto on steroids! - VARIANT_BOOL .... why oh why is VARIANT_TRUE -1 not 1 which is what TRUE is defined as, source of much pain in the past - oh and anything COM related actually! - MFC (need I say more...)

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                        • C codemunkeh

                          You so could write it like that in VB. But it would be tantamount to num *= 2 err I mean num = num * 2 Curses to VB and it's lack of shorthand arithmetic operators!


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                          dawmail333
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                          If you actually bothered to check, VB.Net HAS had that shorthand since .Net 1.1. Check your facts mate! And he was talking about the case sensitivity in C# (my main gripe with it): so that num <> Num <> NUM, so that num = Num + NUM is NOT num *= 2

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                            If you actually bothered to check, VB.Net HAS had that shorthand since .Net 1.1. Check your facts mate! And he was talking about the case sensitivity in C# (my main gripe with it): so that num <> Num <> NUM, so that num = Num + NUM is NOT num *= 2

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                            codemunkeh
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                            I could've sworn it didn't have it when I used it in .NET 2, odd.. And I meant VB when I said num *= 2. I was trying to highlight my gripe with my last (apparently inaccurate) experience of VB, how it lacks in things I like using. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Edit: definitely my bad. I had somehow confused *= with ++. I tried writing some VB about 5 minutes ago and automatically put ; at the end of every line. :doh:


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                            • T Todd Smith

                              What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                              BillWoodruff
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                              "Specification." best, Bill

                              "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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                                What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                                CodeGimp
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                                • T Todd Smith

                                  What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

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                                  Lucien0
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                                  Todd Smith wrote:

                                  What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example:

                                  Code without comments. I think it's synonymous with talking at you, rather than with you. Rude. Leaving compiler warnings in a build. Which speaks so much about the character of the programmer. Lazy, like koalas. Luc

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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:

                                    int num = Num + NUM;

                                    Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                                    Seth Rowe
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                                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                    Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!?

                                    Of course with the release of Visual Studio 2010, VB will be getting implicit line continuation for most areas :-) Thanks, Seth Rowe [MVP]

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                                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                      Really? I loved checked exceptions when I was programming in Java. I have the backing of at least one more highly-respected CPian. :)

                                      Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)

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                                      Daniel Vaughan
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                                      Me too. When they are used properly.

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                                      • J jeron1

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        I agree with that, despite knowing that at Assembly level, that's exactly what your code will do.

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                                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                          Throws, as in the Java notation :thumbsdown:

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                                          Fabio Franco
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                                          This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.

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