Programming's Foul Language
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If you actually bothered to check, VB.Net HAS had that shorthand since .Net 1.1. Check your facts mate! And he was talking about the case sensitivity in C# (my main gripe with it): so that
num <> Num <> NUM, so thatnum = Num + NUMis NOTnum *= 2I could've sworn it didn't have it when I used it in .NET 2, odd.. And I meant VB when I said
num *= 2. I was trying to highlight my gripe with my last (apparently inaccurate) experience of VB, how it lacks in things I like using. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Edit: definitely my bad. I had somehow confused *= with ++. I tried writing some VB about 5 minutes ago and automatically put ; at the end of every line. :doh:
Ninja (the Nerd)
Confused? You will be...modified on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:23 AM
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What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code
Todd Smith
"Specification." best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code
Todd Smith
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What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example:
Code without comments. I think it's synonymous with talking at you, rather than with you. Rude. Leaving compiler warnings in a build. Which speaks so much about the character of the programmer. Lazy, like koalas. Luc
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Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:
int num = Num + NUM;
Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!?
Of course with the release of Visual Studio 2010, VB will be getting implicit line continuation for most areas :-) Thanks, Seth Rowe [MVP]
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Really? I loved checked exceptions when I was programming in Java. I have the backing of at least one more highly-respected CPian. :)
Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)
Me too. When they are used properly.
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I agree with that, despite knowing that at Assembly level, that's exactly what your code will do.
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Throws, as in the Java notation :thumbsdown:
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This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.
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This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.
.... right up until something changes in the library and it can throw a new exception at which point the library author has to either break every single app that consumes it, cast the new exception into a different type defeating the purpose of typed exceptions in the first place, or just have every method throw exception from the start defeating the purpose of checked exceptions from the start. X|
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
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I like writing documents. :)
Me too.
Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!?
Of course with the release of Visual Studio 2010, VB will be getting implicit line continuation for most areas :-) Thanks, Seth Rowe [MVP]
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something something {
more of that something
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I know some like this kind of brace style but personally I can't stand it at all. It goes so far that I tend to reformat a piece of code with this brace style before reading it :-D.
____________________________ I didn't know what to put in here.
Yeah there's nothing quite like naming your church
cultafter the name of the authors who weren't able to convince their publisher that reformatting their code like that to save on printing costs wasn't a good idea. :rolleyes:The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
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I like writing documents. :)
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.... right up until something changes in the library and it can throw a new exception at which point the library author has to either break every single app that consumes it, cast the new exception into a different type defeating the purpose of typed exceptions in the first place, or just have every method throw exception from the start defeating the purpose of checked exceptions from the start. X|
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
That might happen even if you don't have typed exceptions. And we will always have the option of handling a base exception, which covers all exceptions for cases like this.
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This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.
You do realize you can mark up which exceptions are thrown in XML comments? I forget if that junk shows up in the intellisense though...
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Gosub On Error Resume Next
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As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Amen. Any language that uses VB6 style exception handling should be outlawed. Gives me a headache every time I try to read it.
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What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code
Todd Smith
Spagetti code. "Budding" code. "Moulded" code (large sections commented out). Quick fix X|
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What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code
Todd Smith
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Kidding ? :omg: Coding without it is like using FORTRAN: do not catch anything, or enclose all code in try/catch, just in case ;P
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Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:
int num = Num + NUM;
Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
GOD, I FUC^N HATE THAT and they do it in textbooks, tutorials, samples --- yeah that's right Microsoft I'm talking to you.... I propose anyone caught doing this gets paper cuts on the tips of all of their digits... that will teach them. (try typing now you sick B@$$+@rd$ I slept last night so i feel good today, try me again in 24 hours I won't be so plucky.