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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:

    int num = Num + NUM;

    Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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    Seth Rowe
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    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!?

    Of course with the release of Visual Studio 2010, VB will be getting implicit line continuation for most areas :-) Thanks, Seth Rowe [MVP]

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    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

      Really? I loved checked exceptions when I was programming in Java. I have the backing of at least one more highly-respected CPian. :)

      Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)

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      Daniel Vaughan
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      Me too. When they are used properly.

      Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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      • J jeron1

        goto X|

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        Fabio Franco
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        I agree with that, despite knowing that at Assembly level, that's exactly what your code will do.

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          Throws, as in the Java notation :thumbsdown:

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          Fabio Franco
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          This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.

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          • F Fabio Franco

            This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.

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            Dan Neely
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            .... right up until something changes in the library and it can throw a new exception at which point the library author has to either break every single app that consumes it, cast the new exception into a different type defeating the purpose of typed exceptions in the first place, or just have every method throw exception from the start defeating the purpose of checked exceptions from the start. X|

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            • B Brady Kelly

              I like writing documents. :)

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              Daniel Vaughan
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              Me too.

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              • S Seth Rowe

                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!?

                Of course with the release of Visual Studio 2010, VB will be getting implicit line continuation for most areas :-) Thanks, Seth Rowe [MVP]

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                Dan Neely
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                *cringe* I can just imagine the number of urgent doubts that will be flooding the forums whenever the implicit guessing fails. :doh:

                The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                • N Nougat H

                  something something {

                  more of that something

                  }

                  I know some like this kind of brace style but personally I can't stand it at all. It goes so far that I tend to reformat a piece of code with this brace style before reading it :-D.

                  ____________________________ I didn't know what to put in here.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  Yeah there's nothing quite like naming your churchcult after the name of the authors who weren't able to convince their publisher that reformatting their code like that to save on printing costs wasn't a good idea. :rolleyes:

                  The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    I like writing documents. :)

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                    Dan Neely
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                    ... and exile you to management for all of eternity.

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      .... right up until something changes in the library and it can throw a new exception at which point the library author has to either break every single app that consumes it, cast the new exception into a different type defeating the purpose of typed exceptions in the first place, or just have every method throw exception from the start defeating the purpose of checked exceptions from the start. X|

                      The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                      Fabio Franco
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                      That might happen even if you don't have typed exceptions. And we will always have the option of handling a base exception, which covers all exceptions for cases like this.

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                      • F Fabio Franco

                        This is the only thing about JAVA that I miss wish to be in C#. This is very useful when you're using other people's libraries. You get know what to catch, without needing a very well documented library.

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                        csharphacker
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                        You do realize you can mark up which exceptions are thrown in XML comments? I forget if that junk shows up in the intellisense though...

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                          DiscoJimmy
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                          Amen. Any language that uses VB6 style exception handling should be outlawed. Gives me a headache every time I try to read it.

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                          • T Todd Smith

                            What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

                            Todd Smith

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                            Delphi4ever
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                            Spagetti code. "Budding" code. "Moulded" code (large sections commented out). Quick fix X|

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                            • D dmitri_sps

                              Kidding ? :omg: Coding without it is like using FORTRAN: do not catch anything, or enclose all code in try/catch, just in case ;P

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                              ely_bob
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                              You should be able to code it without raising exceptions.. if you can't you should go back to school. :)

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                              • T Todd Smith

                                What programming terms would you consider equivalent to foul language? For example: Legacy Code

                                Todd Smith

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                                Bob work
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                                VBA: On Error Resume Next DoEvents

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Drop the semi-colon? And be forced _ to resort to VB's _ horrible style of _ line continuations!?!? No thanks. Though the case sensitivity... I wouldn't have to deal with code where people name the private variables the same as the exposed properties, with just case differences... Or better yet, gems like:

                                  int num = Num + NUM;

                                  Thankfully, I've never actually seen a line that bad, but imagine a program written like that... There's something you can't do in VB.

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                                  ely_bob
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                                  GOD, I FUC^N HATE THAT and they do it in textbooks, tutorials, samples --- yeah that's right Microsoft I'm talking to you.... I propose anyone caught doing this gets paper cuts on the tips of all of their digits... that will teach them. (try typing now you sick B@$$+@rd$ I slept last night so i feel good today, try me again in 24 hours I won't be so plucky.

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                                    etkid84
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                                    to your list

                                    David

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                                    • F Fabio Franco

                                      I agree with that, despite knowing that at Assembly level, that's exactly what your code will do.

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                                      jeron1
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                                      Fabio Franco wrote:

                                      knowing that at Assembly level, that's exactly what your code will do.

                                      True, I have programmed in both languages and for some reason it seems natural (maybe because there's no choice?) in assembler and completely out of place in C++.

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                                      • J jeron1

                                        goto X|

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                                        Owen37
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                                        goto can actually be useful (if used extremely sparingly - so sparingly that I haven't used it in over 10 years!) One example where goto is very helpful is in programming an efficient state-machine. Oh, I know you can do it without gotos by using functions and/or block escapes, but the goto is much more efficient -- and, in the case of a state-machine, actually HELPS understanding of what is going on.... FWIW (getting ready for all the thumbs-down).

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                                        • O Owen37

                                          goto can actually be useful (if used extremely sparingly - so sparingly that I haven't used it in over 10 years!) One example where goto is very helpful is in programming an efficient state-machine. Oh, I know you can do it without gotos by using functions and/or block escapes, but the goto is much more efficient -- and, in the case of a state-machine, actually HELPS understanding of what is going on.... FWIW (getting ready for all the thumbs-down).

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                                          jeron1
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                                          Owen37 wrote:

                                          if used extremely sparingly - so sparingly that I haven't used it in over 10 years!)

                                          I guess I'm not saying that they can NEVER be useful, it's just that whenever I've seen it used abused, it had no business in the code and it's always at least a red flag.

                                          Owen37 wrote:

                                          (getting ready for all the thumbs-down).

                                          Not from me. :)

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