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  • J Johann Gerell

    So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'. The Foos and Bars transition to a new state. The Foo may transition to the therblig state when the Bar transitions to the fellbarg state, but not while the Framitz is transitioning to either state.

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      The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'. The Foos and Bars transition to a new state. The Foo may transition to the therblig state when the Bar transitions to the fellbarg state, but not while the Framitz is transitioning to either state.

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      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'

      Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!

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      • J Johann Gerell

        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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        Transitionalize(d) edit: Saw the tense you wanted.

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        • J Johann Gerell

          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

          -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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          Gary's response is correct. Transition can be a noun or a verb, but is most commonly used as a noun which is why it sounds odd when used this way but it is correct.

          Dave
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            Transmogrify. :-D

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            Johann Gerell
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            Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)

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            • R Russell Jones

              I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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              Johann Gerell
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              Russell Jones wrote:

              Both sound ghastly though.

              But correct, they are! ;)

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                Gary's response is correct. Transition can be a noun or a verb, but is most commonly used as a noun which is why it sounds odd when used this way but it is correct.

                Dave
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                Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

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                Rob Philpott
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                Transfer I'd say.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  Transitionalize(d) edit: Saw the tense you wanted.

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                  Vark111 wrote:

                  Transitionalise(d)

                  At least spell it with an 's' dear boy :laugh: :omg:

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                  • J Johann Gerell

                    So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    Good luck making any sense of the english lanuage, I'm 35 (& English) and I haven't yet, nor have most English people AFAIK. If the same question is phrased "How do you say...." you'll get an answer straight away in most cases, try and ask the same thing as gramatical question and you'll jyst get puzzled looks, 10 minutes of thinking and no answer from 90% of the population (me included).

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                    • J Johann Gerell

                      Russell Jones wrote:

                      Both sound ghastly though.

                      But correct, they are! ;)

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                      Maybe the problem is with the 1st person. The foos transition to a new state seems okish I transition the foos to a new state sounds awful.

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                      • J Johann Gerell

                        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                        what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                        • J Johann Gerell

                          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                          Roger Wright
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                          While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

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                            So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                            The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

                            modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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                              The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

                              modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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                              Luc Pattyn
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                              that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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                                While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

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                                sounds fine by me! :)

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                                  Transfer I'd say.

                                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                  Johann Gerell
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                                  Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                                  • J Johann Gerell

                                    Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)

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                                    Ooooh... pervert would work too!

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                                    • J Johann Gerell

                                      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                      Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                                        what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                                        Johann Gerell
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                                        Hmm... Yes, I think I like the verb transit more than the verb transition.

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                                        • R Russell Jones

                                          I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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                                          But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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