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  • V Vark111

    Transitionalize(d) edit: Saw the tense you wanted.

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    DaveyM69
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    Vark111 wrote:

    Transitionalise(d)

    At least spell it with an 's' dear boy :laugh: :omg:

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    • J Johann Gerell

      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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      Keith Barrow
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      Good luck making any sense of the english lanuage, I'm 35 (& English) and I haven't yet, nor have most English people AFAIK. If the same question is phrased "How do you say...." you'll get an answer straight away in most cases, try and ask the same thing as gramatical question and you'll jyst get puzzled looks, 10 minutes of thinking and no answer from 90% of the population (me included).

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      • J Johann Gerell

        Russell Jones wrote:

        Both sound ghastly though.

        But correct, they are! ;)

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        Russell Jones
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        Maybe the problem is with the 1st person. The foos transition to a new state seems okish I transition the foos to a new state sounds awful.

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        • J Johann Gerell

          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

          -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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          Luc Pattyn
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          what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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          • J Johann Gerell

            So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

            -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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            Roger Wright
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            While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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            • J Johann Gerell

              So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

              -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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              Lost User
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              The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

              modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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                The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

                modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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                Luc Pattyn
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                that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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                • R Roger Wright

                  While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  Luc Pattyn
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                  sounds fine by me! :)

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                  • R Rob Philpott

                    Transfer I'd say.

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    Johann Gerell
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                    Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                    • J Johann Gerell

                      Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Ooooh... pervert would work too!

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                      • J Johann Gerell

                        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

                        -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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                        Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                          Johann Gerell
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                          Hmm... Yes, I think I like the verb transit more than the verb transition.

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                            I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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                            But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                              that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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                              Johann Gerell
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                              I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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                                But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                                While transitioning a realigned salary to your bank account?

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                                  Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                                  Johann Gerell
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                                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                  see Chambers Dictionary - the best

                                  Got me thinking of online weather services. If one shows rain and cold weather, try another and pick the forecast that suits you best. ;)

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                                  • J Johann Gerell

                                    I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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                                    Yes I see the point Luc has. I used translate because it was the only one that had a direct definition under the Computer Science heading. I would use The foo and bars change state to.. -or- The state of foo and bar change to..

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                                      Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                                      Rob Philpott
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                                      Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

                                        -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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                                        Russell Jones
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                                        in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                                          Johann Gerell
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                                          Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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