EQOTD - English Question of the Day - verbalized transition
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So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:
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Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]
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Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)
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Ooooh... pervert would work too!
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what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)
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Hmm... Yes, I think I like the verb transit more than the verb transition.
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I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.
But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."
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that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)
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I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.
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But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."
While transitioning a realigned salary to your bank account?
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Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
see Chambers Dictionary - the best
Got me thinking of online weather services. If one shows rain and cold weather, try another and pick the forecast that suits you best. ;)
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I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.
-- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel
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Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.
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Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.
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in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B
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But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."
Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'
Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!
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You're welcome.
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Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]
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in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B
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Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Rob Philpott wrote:
thought the word 'change' would be the best
But, but... change sounds so... readable. ;)
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what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)
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Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.
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Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.
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you still need to move a lot of electrons to get one state to transit to another one. :laugh:
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So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:
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Johann Gerell wrote:
What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition
transition is also a verb. So you would say "Foos and Bars transitions to a new state"
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what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)
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except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.
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except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.
all of the above. And for me the shortest word wins. :)
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