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  • R Russell Jones

    I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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    But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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    • L Luc Pattyn

      that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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      Johann Gerell
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      I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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        But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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        Russell Jones
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        While transitioning a realigned salary to your bank account?

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        • L Lost User

          Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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          Johann Gerell
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          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          see Chambers Dictionary - the best

          Got me thinking of online weather services. If one shows rain and cold weather, try another and pick the forecast that suits you best. ;)

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          • J Johann Gerell

            I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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            Lost User
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            Yes I see the point Luc has. I used translate because it was the only one that had a direct definition under the Computer Science heading. I would use The foo and bars change state to.. -or- The state of foo and bar change to..

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            • J Johann Gerell

              Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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              Rob Philpott
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              Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                Russell Jones
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                in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                  Johann Gerell
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                  Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                  • J Johann Gerell

                    Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                    The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'

                    Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!

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                    You're welcome.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                      Here is an online Computer Science Dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^] However transition falls under a video section, and it dos not have thesaurus entries.

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                      • R Russell Jones

                        in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                        Johann Gerell
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                        :laugh:

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                        • R Rob Philpott

                          Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          Johann Gerell
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                          Rob Philpott wrote:

                          thought the word 'change' would be the best

                          But, but... change sounds so... readable. ;)

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                          • L Luc Pattyn

                            what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                            MidwestLimey
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                            Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                              Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                              Luc Pattyn
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                              you still need to move a lot of electrons to get one state to transit to another one. :laugh:

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                              • J Johann Gerell

                                So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Johann Gerell wrote:

                                What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition

                                transition is also a verb. So you would say "Foos and Bars transitions to a new state"

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                                • L Luc Pattyn

                                  what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

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                                    except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

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                                    Luc Pattyn
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                                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                    so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

                                    all of the above. And for me the shortest word wins. :)

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                                    • J Johann Gerell

                                      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                      Dirk Higbee
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                                      Transite? :-D

                                      My reality check bounced.

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                                      • J Johann Gerell

                                        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                        Steve Westbrook
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                                        Transit. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor.

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                                        • J Johann Gerell

                                          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                          RichardM1
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                                          How about "changes" state?

                                          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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