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  • R Roger Wright

    While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

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    Luc Pattyn
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    sounds fine by me! :)

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    • R Rob Philpott

      Transfer I'd say.

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      Johann Gerell
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      Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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      • J Johann Gerell

        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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        Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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        • J Johann Gerell

          Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)

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          Ooooh... pervert would work too!

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          • L Luc Pattyn

            what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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            Johann Gerell
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            Hmm... Yes, I think I like the verb transit more than the verb transition.

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            • R Russell Jones

              I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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              But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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                Johann Gerell
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                I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                  Russell Jones
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                  While transitioning a realigned salary to your bank account?

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                  • L Lost User

                    Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                    Johann Gerell
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                    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                    see Chambers Dictionary - the best

                    Got me thinking of online weather services. If one shows rain and cold weather, try another and pick the forecast that suits you best. ;)

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                    • J Johann Gerell

                      Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                      Rob Philpott
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                      Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      • J Johann Gerell

                        I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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                        Yes I see the point Luc has. I used translate because it was the only one that had a direct definition under the Computer Science heading. I would use The foo and bars change state to.. -or- The state of foo and bar change to..

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                        • J Johann Gerell

                          Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                          in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                            Johann Gerell
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                            Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                            • J Johann Gerell

                              Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                              The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'

                              Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!

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                              You're welcome.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                                Here is an online Computer Science Dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^] However transition falls under a video section, and it dos not have thesaurus entries.

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                                • R Russell Jones

                                  in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                                  Johann Gerell
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                                  :laugh:

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                                  • R Rob Philpott

                                    Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    Johann Gerell
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                                    Rob Philpott wrote:

                                    thought the word 'change' would be the best

                                    But, but... change sounds so... readable. ;)

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                                    • L Luc Pattyn

                                      what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                                      MidwestLimey
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                                      Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                                      • M MidwestLimey

                                        Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                                        Luc Pattyn
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                                        you still need to move a lot of electrons to get one state to transit to another one. :laugh:

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                                        • J Johann Gerell

                                          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          Johann Gerell wrote:

                                          What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition

                                          transition is also a verb. So you would say "Foos and Bars transitions to a new state"

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