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  • J Johann Gerell

    Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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    Rob Philpott
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    Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    • J Johann Gerell

      Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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      Russell Jones
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      in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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        Johann Gerell
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        Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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        • J Johann Gerell

          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

          The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'

          Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          You're welcome.

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          • L Lost User

            Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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            Lost User
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            Here is an online Computer Science Dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^] However transition falls under a video section, and it dos not have thesaurus entries.

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            • R Russell Jones

              in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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              Johann Gerell
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              :laugh:

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Johann Gerell
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                Rob Philpott wrote:

                thought the word 'change' would be the best

                But, but... change sounds so... readable. ;)

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                  MidwestLimey
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                  Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                  • M MidwestLimey

                    Transit in my mind has physicality in that some object is moving from point A to point B via some medium, rather than the more abstruse state-change of a non physical entity.

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    you still need to move a lot of electrons to get one state to transit to another one. :laugh:

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                    • J Johann Gerell

                      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Johann Gerell wrote:

                      What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition

                      transition is also a verb. So you would say "Foos and Bars transitions to a new state"

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          except that transit means to travel. so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          ahmed zahmed wrote:

                          so is Foo traveling from state a to b? Or is it transitioning? Or changing.

                          all of the above. And for me the shortest word wins. :)

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                          • J Johann Gerell

                            So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                            Dirk Higbee
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                            Transite? :-D

                            My reality check bounced.

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                            • J Johann Gerell

                              So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                              Steve Westbrook
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                              Transit. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor.

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                              • J Johann Gerell

                                So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                RichardM1
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                                How about "changes" state?

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                                • J Johann Gerell

                                  So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                  Make up a new word - "vestized". It's derived from the word "transvestite"...

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                                  • J Johann Gerell

                                    So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                    Johann Gerell wrote: So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. Hi Johann, Suggestions : 1. "the Foos and Bars then change state to ... : " : "transition to" would also be acceptable English, but I think the first example is simpler and clearer. 2. for "some documentation that's sprinkled of the text 'state transition'." try : "documentation that frequently uses the phrase "state transition" best, Bill

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                                    • J Johann Gerell

                                      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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                                      <heavily suppressing the need to say something funny> The past.p. verb form is transitioned. Pres.p. transitioning. Sic transit gloria mundi

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                                        Johann Gerell wrote: So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. Hi Johann, Suggestions : 1. "the Foos and Bars then change state to ... : " : "transition to" would also be acceptable English, but I think the first example is simpler and clearer. 2. for "some documentation that's sprinkled of the text 'state transition'." try : "documentation that frequently uses the phrase "state transition" best, Bill

                                        "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        BillWoodruff wrote:

                                        What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition?

                                        Which one? Simple present: I transition you transition He/she/it transitions etc. transition Present continuous: Simple present: I am transitioning you are transitioning He/she/it is transitioning etc. are transitioning Present perfect: I have transitioned you have transitioned he/she/it has transitioned etc. has transitioned Passive voice: I am transitioned you are transitioned he/she/it is transitioned etc. are transitioned Is that enough, or should I continue? (edit to add the passive)

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                                        • S Steve Westbrook

                                          Transit. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Steve Westbrook wrote:

                                          Transit. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor.

                                          I'm a tractor, then. (And tractors can't type)

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