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  • J Johann Gerell

    Russell Jones wrote:

    Both sound ghastly though.

    But correct, they are! ;)

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    Russell Jones
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    Maybe the problem is with the 1st person. The foos transition to a new state seems okish I transition the foos to a new state sounds awful.

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      So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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      Luc Pattyn
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      what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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      • J Johann Gerell

        So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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        Roger Wright
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        While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        • J Johann Gerell

          So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

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          The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

          modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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            The verb form is translate or transition. Of coarse change works also. Online Computer Science dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^]

            modified on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:53 AM

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            that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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              While the word 'transition' works nicely, you could also use 'transit' which I believe is the root of all these forms. It's a little archaic, though.

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              Luc Pattyn
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              sounds fine by me! :)

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Transfer I'd say.

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                Johann Gerell
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                Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                • J Johann Gerell

                  So, I'm writing some documentation that's sprinkled of the text "state transition". To get a natural text flow I need say that the Foos and Bars [make verb of transition] to a new state. What the heck is the present tense of the verb-form of transition? Neither *.reference.com nor Google Translate is helpful enough on this. :sigh:

                  -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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                  Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                  • J Johann Gerell

                    Nah - my states are neither bizarre nor perverted. ;)

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Ooooh... pervert would work too!

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                    • L Luc Pattyn

                      what is wrong with transit? it is a verb[^] as well as a noun. :)

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                      Johann Gerell
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                      Hmm... Yes, I think I like the verb transit more than the verb transition.

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                      • R Russell Jones

                        I always thought transition was a noun but I'll probably be corrected. I guess the two present tenses would be. I transition from a handstand to a bridge. I am transitioning between a handstand and a bridge. Both sound ghastly though. I'd use a word like shift / leap / travel / move to describe the movement between 2 transition states.

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                        But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          that seems like a different thing altogether: someone/something translates something from something into something (Jef translates a book from English to French), not a state changing itself into another state. :)

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                          Johann Gerell
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                          I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

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                            But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                            While transitioning a realigned salary to your bank account?

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                              Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                              Johann Gerell
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                              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                              see Chambers Dictionary - the best

                              Got me thinking of online weather services. If one shows rain and cold weather, try another and pick the forecast that suits you best. ;)

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                              • J Johann Gerell

                                I disagree. Translate definitely has its use with languages, but also in other areas, like maths, physics, mechanics, etc. But in this case I think I prefer transit.

                                -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

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                                Yes I see the point Luc has. I used translate because it was the only one that had a direct definition under the Computer Science heading. I would use The foo and bars change state to.. -or- The state of foo and bar change to..

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                                  Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                                  Rob Philpott
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                                  Well, its a transitive verb innit? Actually, I'd have thought the word 'change' would be the best most appropriate verb in your example.

                                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    Ouch! That felt like a belly-punch. Transfer? Really? Then it sounds like something external is moving physical matter to make the change. ;) "A transitions to B" makes it sound more like an internal change in Foo makes its state go from A to B, which is what I want.

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                                    Russell Jones
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                                    in which case you need to use gambolled or frolicked and possibly an adverb such as gaily or daintily. Docs would be far more readable if the fleet-footed foo frolicked daintily from A to B

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      But then it sounds like manager-speak: "We're transitioning you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                                      Johann Gerell
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                                      Nah, that would be "We're transferring you to Tiera Del Fuego."

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                                      • J Johann Gerell

                                        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                                        The present tense verb form of 'transition' is 'transition'

                                        Cool! I actually had no clue that was the case - thanks!

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                                        You're welcome.

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                                          Transition is noun or adjective in usage, from the verb to transit (see Chambers Dictionary - the best). You could say that a transition occurs from Foos to Bars, or that the Foos undergo a state transition to Bars. Or you could just say they change state. [edit]I would bet that Dalek Dave knows the answer - can you hear us Dave?[/edit]

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                                          Here is an online Computer Science Dictionary: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/v/video_transition.html[^] However transition falls under a video section, and it dos not have thesaurus entries.

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