Visual Studio 2010 is coming out soon. Does anyone care?

[Roger Wright]

Sounds like a very cool tool! No, I 'm not kidding - I don't program for a living anymore, and haven't for a couple of decades. But when I did, designing algorithms and state machines for real-time electronics testing was my forte. F# probably would have been a great help. Implementing Kalman filters and adaptive signal processing, FFTs and Z-transforms in HP-BASIC was no fun at all!

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[omie6541]

I'm pretty much excited I can say. I'm a student and learning new things, I'm looking forward to play with .NET 4.0

[BitBarbeQue]

I'm very excited too, cause I won a copy in the Azure contest. ;P If you like to get more challenge - why don't you try a bit assembler?

[NormDroid]

I can't wait, I been on the Visual Studio road for as long as.... well Visual C++ 1.x :)

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[Filip C]

"optional parameters" are not new to the '.NET framework', but are new for C#. VB.NET had that allready.

[Adriaan Davel]

If you want to make it harder to do your job install Win3.1 (it uses a mouse as well) and use notepad to write assembly code with :) Its about continuos progression. MS has chosen to not add too much to .Net4 (which I aagree 100% with), but VS 2010 has many new goodies. I love the WPF code editor, it works really well, only subtle differences to the previous one but I went back to VS 2008 the other day and code editing was less pleasant. If you are planning to even consider Silverlight, don't bother withb VS 2008. I've been doing SL development in VS 2010 Beta2 since the day it came out, RC is much better (but has a few new bugs :( ) but I can't wait till RTM relaese...

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[KungFuCoder]

Mark Nischalke wrote:

improvements to the IDE itself.

So being able to reliably crash the IDE and silently re-writing bits of a .aspx page and occsionally the .net code so that my app no longer works are a thing of the past ? Oh, and occasionally having to close and re-open VS to get the site to compile - I'll be rather glad to be rid of that one as well

[hairy_hats]

Some features might be nice to have, but I'd be more excited if it didn't require a Cray to run at a usable speed.

[peterchen]

Looking forward to C++ `auto` Playing around with resource pilfering (might become an article)

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[KenBonny]

Filip C wrote:

"optional parameters" are not new to the '.NET framework', but are new for C#. VB.NET had that allready

Isn't it more clean to use

public void Func(object param1) {
func(param1, "test");
}

public void Func(object param1, string param2) {
//process stuff
}

This way you get multiple overloads in the Intelisense instead of

Func(param1[, param2])

[ian__lindsay 0]

Am quite excited too, things I am looking forward to playing with: - C++0x features, auto and lambdas particularly - never did like functors - Direct2D and DirectWrite look cool (not sure if they are particularly are a .net 4 feature though) - Improvements for intellisense in C++ (but see below) and the IDE in general - Task parallel library - Proper multi monitor support Things I am not looking forward to: - No intellisense in C++/CLI - might even mean I wait for SP1 before seriously adopting VS2010 as we make heavy use of C++/CLI (thanks for the book by the way Nish - extremely helpful in teaching an old C++ dog some new .net tricks!) - WPF for the IDE - sure it will look pretty, but will it run as fast - from our experience of WPF, I'm not so sure, but they may have made improvements while using it in anger themselves.

[originSH]

That dude sounds like an idiot :)

[Searril]

I am. I skipped VS2008 and don't want to get too far behind what's current, so VS2010 is pretty much a definite for me.

[Not Active]

Who cares about VB. ;P There are more features being added to VB.NET to make it more like C#. With 5.0 VB developers may actually need to know and understand OO.

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[ToddHileHoffer]

I am considering Silverlight. I've made a few small applications with it using VS 2010 RC. It is not bad at all. There were so demo videos on line, so I was able to set up paging and WCF services to hit the database. My biggest gripe with silver light programing is the error handling / debugging. With ASP.Net webforms, I put a few lines of code in the global.asax on error event to call my generic error handler class and I basically get the line number and file name of the .net code that caused an exception. I still haven't figured out how to handle errors properly in SL. You can't email from Silverlight, for obvious reasons. I get that MS does not want me to turn browsers into spam servers, but I haven't found a good solution for dealing with exceptions. This has prevented me from using it for any major application.

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[Tomz_KV]

It could be a better tool for cloud development.

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[Karl Sanford]

Oh yes! One word, Intellitrace! Being able to debug forward and now BACKWARDS!?! Do you know how much time that will save? Have you ever been debuging through a program, only to realize you've gone too far in your code? Right now, you have to restart the program, and try to get back to the exact spot you were before. If you have medium to high complexity programs, this can suck up alot of time in your day. I'm really exited about this.

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[Steve Naidamast]

I guess I am one of the few who is looking forward to VS 2010. I am not a big fan of VS 2008. I find it quirky and sometimes maddening slow when working with web apps. I actually still prefer working with VS 2005 as I find it a more solid implementation. However, I can understand if many technicians have little appetite for yet another release of VS. Much of what you need to accomplish can be done in VS 2005... and quite well. After a point there is simply not much a vendor can offer in a new version of an IDE or a compiler except for new but very esoteric features such as generics or LINQ...

Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

[ToddHileHoffer]

I didn't know about that feature. That sounds awesome.

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[benfergie]

"Oh, and occasionally having to close and re-open VS to get the site to compile" And here I thought I was the only one! :)