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VS2008 is it safe to let it go now?

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  • M Maximilien

    Dan Neely wrote:

    supposed

    ???? it IS slower and bloated. We would need to replaced all of our computers if we decide to switch to VS2010.

    Watched code never compiles.

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    Dan Neely
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    I've yet to install it, and am do not regard anecdotal evidence as definitive; nor I have I seen anyone who compared times to do various tasks with a stopwatch...

    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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    • D DaveAuld

      On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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      Kevin Marois
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      What's scary is that you used the word "safe" in the same sentence as "VS". You're a brave soul.

      Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

        Let's say you have an unmanaged application developed using VS 2008 in production. You will still need VS2008 to maintain that application.

        That's true if your dev machine is also a build/release machine, which is in general not a good idea. Otherwise, you just make a fix on VS2010, check the change in, build with the appropriate compiler/CRT version, test and deploy.

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        As long as the proj files are same format, I guess that will work. But I prefer to keep both versions of vs.

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        • J Joshua Tully

          Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

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          that is not true. One can still use XNA to develop for XBox and PC. It's true for the Visual Studio 2010 Express for Win Phone and for the CTP, but this is one thing. "XNA Game Studio and the XNA Framework are designed for cross-platform gaming scenarios with support for Windows Phone 7 Series, Xbox 360, and Windows-based PCs. This allows you to target more platforms from the same code base. Also, it allows developers to focus game design for each platform on real device differences, such as the device capabilities and experience, as opposed to writing with different frameworks for every device that is targeted"

          Just an irritated, ranting son of ... an IT guy. At your trolling services

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            As long as the proj files are same format, I guess that will work. But I prefer to keep both versions of vs.

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            Luc Pattyn
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            and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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              and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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              DaveyM69
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              Somehow i missed that article - thanks for linking! :thumbsup:

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                or you can use [^](http://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypUserDocumentation”>GYP</a>[<a href= "New Window")] :) Solution converter is interesting.

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                  or you can use [^](http://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypUserDocumentation”>GYP</a>[<a href= "New Window")] :) Solution converter is interesting.

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                  Luc Pattyn
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                  are you referring to gStudio? :laugh: the link seems slightly dammaged, a bad omen. :)

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                  modified on Friday, May 14, 2010 6:34 PM

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    As long as the proj files are same format, I guess that will work. But I prefer to keep both versions of vs.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    As long as the proj files are same format

                    Which they wouldn't be because they contain version info, so it would break it. I mean if you really, really wanted to you can use nmake to get around it - and sometimes automated builds do - but that's just being weird. :)

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                    • L Luc Pattyn

                      are you referring to gStudio? :laugh: the link seems slightly dammaged, a bad omen. :)

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                      modified on Friday, May 14, 2010 6:34 PM

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      I was referring to gyp. http://code.google.com/p/gyp/[^]

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                        John M Drescher
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                        I am not sure it is safe to uninstall visual C++ 6 as I have 100s of thousands of lines of code in projects that will only compile under that version. Same with 2003. As for 2005 and above porting will probably be simpler for multiple reasons. One is that I use CMake now for my project file generation and do not put any .sln or .vcproj files in my source control at all.

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                          Abhinav S
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                          Why do you want to let it go? They can run side by side and IMO, you never know when you might need it.

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                            On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                            NormDroid
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                            It's as safe as houses. Find it stable so far.

                            Two heads are better than one.

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                              daveauld wrote:

                              is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

                              Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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                              DaveAuld
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                              I only use AnkhSVN, and it is compatible, so one thing taken care of.

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                daveauld wrote:

                                any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

                                Only if you are doing unmanaged development.

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                                DaveAuld
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                                Nope not doing any of that.

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                                  I personally get rid of the older VS version as soon as the new one comes up. SO IMHO, there is no point keeping VS 2008 if you have VS 2010.

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                                  DaveAuld
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                                  Excellent, that 3 goes, 0 stays

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                                    Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

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                                    DaveAuld
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                                    Not an issue, so thats 4G 0S

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                                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                      I mean, GB are at a premium these days. I am not going to delete VS2008 but I am not going to install it when I get my new system in August.

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                                      DaveAuld
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                                      Plenty space, so no issue there.

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                                        Performance? 2010 is supposed to be slower and more bloated....

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        DaveAuld
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                                        Only used it yesterday for the full day and didn't really notice any issues.

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                                        • K Kevin Marois

                                          What's scary is that you used the word "safe" in the same sentence as "VS". You're a brave soul.

                                          Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                                          DaveAuld
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                                          Yeh, maybe wrong choice of word.

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