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VS2008 is it safe to let it go now?

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  • J Joshua Tully

    Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

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    Dan Mos
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    that is not true. One can still use XNA to develop for XBox and PC. It's true for the Visual Studio 2010 Express for Win Phone and for the CTP, but this is one thing. "XNA Game Studio and the XNA Framework are designed for cross-platform gaming scenarios with support for Windows Phone 7 Series, Xbox 360, and Windows-based PCs. This allows you to target more platforms from the same code base. Also, it allows developers to focus game design for each platform on real device differences, such as the device capabilities and experience, as opposed to writing with different frameworks for every device that is targeted"

    Just an irritated, ranting son of ... an IT guy. At your trolling services

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      As long as the proj files are same format, I guess that will work. But I prefer to keep both versions of vs.

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      Luc Pattyn
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      and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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      • L Luc Pattyn

        and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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        DaveyM69
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        Somehow i missed that article - thanks for linking! :thumbsup:

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        • L Luc Pattyn

          and then there was SolutionConverter[^] which looks interesting; I haven't tried it though. :)

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          or you can use [^](http://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypUserDocumentation”>GYP</a>[<a href= "New Window")] :) Solution converter is interesting.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            or you can use [^](http://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypUserDocumentation”>GYP</a>[<a href= "New Window")] :) Solution converter is interesting.

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            Luc Pattyn
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            are you referring to gStudio? :laugh: the link seems slightly dammaged, a bad omen. :)

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            modified on Friday, May 14, 2010 6:34 PM

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              As long as the proj files are same format, I guess that will work. But I prefer to keep both versions of vs.

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              As long as the proj files are same format

              Which they wouldn't be because they contain version info, so it would break it. I mean if you really, really wanted to you can use nmake to get around it - and sometimes automated builds do - but that's just being weird. :)

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                are you referring to gStudio? :laugh: the link seems slightly dammaged, a bad omen. :)

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                modified on Friday, May 14, 2010 6:34 PM

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                I was referring to gyp. http://code.google.com/p/gyp/[^]

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                • D DaveAuld

                  On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                  John M Drescher
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                  I am not sure it is safe to uninstall visual C++ 6 as I have 100s of thousands of lines of code in projects that will only compile under that version. Same with 2003. As for 2005 and above porting will probably be simpler for multiple reasons. One is that I use CMake now for my project file generation and do not put any .sln or .vcproj files in my source control at all.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                    Abhinav S
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                    Why do you want to let it go? They can run side by side and IMO, you never know when you might need it.

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                      NormDroid
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                      It's as safe as houses. Find it stable so far.

                      Two heads are better than one.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        daveauld wrote:

                        any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

                        Only if you are doing unmanaged development.

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                        DaveAuld
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                        Nope not doing any of that.

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          daveauld wrote:

                          is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

                          Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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                          DaveAuld
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                          I only use AnkhSVN, and it is compatible, so one thing taken care of.

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                            Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

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                            DaveAuld
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                            Not an issue, so thats 4G 0S

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                            • D dan sh

                              I personally get rid of the older VS version as soon as the new one comes up. SO IMHO, there is no point keeping VS 2008 if you have VS 2010.

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                              Excellent, that 3 goes, 0 stays

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                I mean, GB are at a premium these days. I am not going to delete VS2008 but I am not going to install it when I get my new system in August.

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                                DaveAuld
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                                Plenty space, so no issue there.

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  Performance? 2010 is supposed to be slower and more bloated....

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  DaveAuld
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                                  Only used it yesterday for the full day and didn't really notice any issues.

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    What's scary is that you used the word "safe" in the same sentence as "VS". You're a brave soul.

                                    Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                                    DaveAuld
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                                    Yeh, maybe wrong choice of word.

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                                    • A Abhinav S

                                      Why do you want to let it go? They can run side by side and IMO, you never know when you might need it.

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                                      DaveAuld
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                                      Just don't see the point in having both on there if i don't need to.

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                                        It's as safe as houses. Find it stable so far.

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                                        DaveAuld
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                                        Thats good to hear. another 'to go' then.

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                                          On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                                          Our policy has always been to maintain a product with the tool chain used to develop it originally. For that reason, we still have VS2003 installed, as most of our legacy applications were developed using it. There is simply too much regression testing required when you update tools. Compiler changes typically require significant source changes. For example, our library of TCP/IP socket communications, threading, and other tools were ported from VS2003 to VS2008 for a new product. This took us a month, along with a fair amount of bug fixes and tweaks since then. Porting our entire legacy product line wouldn't generate any customer benefit, and would entail significant risk.

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