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VS2008 is it safe to let it go now?

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  • A AspDotNetDev

    daveauld wrote:

    is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

    Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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    I only use AnkhSVN, and it is compatible, so one thing taken care of.

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      daveauld wrote:

      any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

      Only if you are doing unmanaged development.

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      DaveAuld
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      Nope not doing any of that.

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      • J Joshua Tully

        Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

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        Not an issue, so thats 4G 0S

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        • D dan sh

          I personally get rid of the older VS version as soon as the new one comes up. SO IMHO, there is no point keeping VS 2008 if you have VS 2010.

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          Excellent, that 3 goes, 0 stays

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            I mean, GB are at a premium these days. I am not going to delete VS2008 but I am not going to install it when I get my new system in August.

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            DaveAuld
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            Plenty space, so no issue there.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              What's scary is that you used the word "safe" in the same sentence as "VS". You're a brave soul.

              Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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              DaveAuld
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              Yeh, maybe wrong choice of word.

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              • D Dan Neely

                Performance? 2010 is supposed to be slower and more bloated....

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                DaveAuld
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                Only used it yesterday for the full day and didn't really notice any issues.

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                • A Abhinav S

                  Why do you want to let it go? They can run side by side and IMO, you never know when you might need it.

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                  DaveAuld
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                  Just don't see the point in having both on there if i don't need to.

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                  • N NormDroid

                    It's as safe as houses. Find it stable so far.

                    Two heads are better than one.

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                    DaveAuld
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                    Thats good to hear. another 'to go' then.

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Our policy has always been to maintain a product with the tool chain used to develop it originally. For that reason, we still have VS2003 installed, as most of our legacy applications were developed using it. There is simply too much regression testing required when you update tools. Compiler changes typically require significant source changes. For example, our library of TCP/IP socket communications, threading, and other tools were ported from VS2003 to VS2008 for a new product. This took us a month, along with a fair amount of bug fixes and tweaks since then. Porting our entire legacy product line wouldn't generate any customer benefit, and would entail significant risk.

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                        Yortw
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                        If you work on Smart Device projects (compact framework/CE apps) then absolutely... they seem to be completely MIA in 2010 as far as I can tell. Pages found via Google suggest these projects and CF have been dropped in favour of the Win 7 Phone SDK (not yet released), which would be fine except we have line of business applications running on barcode scanners, thin clients and other hardware with CE installed that aren't phones and certainly aren't Win Phone 7. The same pages from Google also seem to indicate that if the Smart Device projects are a requirement for you, stick to VS2008 :( Opening a Smart Device .csproj file in VS2010 just says the project type isn't supported, and it won't update it :( Of course, if you don't have that issue and all your add-in's etc. run ok, then it should be safe to move to 2010.

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                          JohnLBevan
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                          It depends on what you're using it for. For example VS2010 can't be used to work on BizTalk 2009 at present. Also, if you're working in a team with people using previous versions, it's best to keep everyone on the same version; so either all upgrade together, or all stick to 2008. I think that OOTB visual studio, being used for standard PODN (plain old dot net) development, should be fine though. You could just keep the installs for VS2008, or keep a virtual machine image with it on, to call up in case you hit issues down the line, then you're pretty much safe whatever.

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            daveauld wrote:

                            is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

                            Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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                            ely_bob
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                            If your developing in XNA you can't upgrade.

                            I'd blame it on the Brain farts.. But let's be honest, it really is more like a Methane factory between my ears some days then it is anything else...

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                            • A AspDotNetDev

                              daveauld wrote:

                              is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

                              Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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                              aspdotnetdev wrote:

                              If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

                              Now, is there any solution to that? Besides loading the .csproj files separetely?

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                                CDMTJX
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                                Wah! I just got management talked into VS2008 instead of VS2005! :sigh:

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                                • F Fabio Franco

                                  aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                  If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

                                  Now, is there any solution to that? Besides loading the .csproj files separetely?

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                                  Edit the solution in Notepad to make it look like a VS2008 solution file?

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    Edit the solution in Notepad to make it look like a VS2008 solution file?

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                                    aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                    Edit the solution in Notepad to make it look like a VS2008 solution file?

                                    That's even more unpractical than Adding csproj files individually

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                                    • F Fabio Franco

                                      aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                      Edit the solution in Notepad to make it look like a VS2008 solution file?

                                      That's even more unpractical than Adding csproj files individually

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                                      Depends on the number of CSPROJ files. Also, when you add CSPROJ's to a solution, the references to other CSPROJ's in the original solution are lost, so you must then add those references again as well. Modifying the SLN file might be as simple as changing a single line. I'd probably just use WinMerge to compare a VS2008 and VS2010 SLN file to take note of the differences.

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                                      • A AspDotNetDev

                                        Depends on the number of CSPROJ files. Also, when you add CSPROJ's to a solution, the references to other CSPROJ's in the original solution are lost, so you must then add those references again as well. Modifying the SLN file might be as simple as changing a single line. I'd probably just use WinMerge to compare a VS2008 and VS2010 SLN file to take note of the differences.

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        Perhaps you're right. But still we'd have to compare the sln files to see what real difference there are between them (WinMerge), using which of the new features of VS 2010. I think there will be cases where either solution might make sense. The optimal solution would be that VS had an "export" feature... Humm... plugin idea?

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                                        • D DaveAuld

                                          On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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                                          That is why I develop in Virtual Machines now - my Visual Studio 6 one now rarely gets powered up, like wise VS2003, VS2005 and VS2008 still very active depending on client. This way I know that if I ever have to go back to do some fix on real old code - even if I have changed machines many times since then I can fire up a Virtual Machine and go into the project and update without faffing around.

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