R.I.P. Windows XP SP2
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
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That last part is certainly true, but I would say that since they called it XP, it is also XP, just a different kind of XP
Quite right. XP 32 bit editions are the ones with SP2 now retired and SP3 the currently supported version. XP 64 bit was built on the 2003 Server kernel (that is not the same as 2003 Server with themes enabled by the way) and is currently on SP2. It will be retired along with Mainline support for 2003 Server. Oops! 2003 Server went out of mainline support yesterday as well, so goodbye XP 64 bit. The only remaining mainline supported XP versions are therefore 32 bit SP3
If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) [My Articles] [My Website]
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Quite right. XP 32 bit editions are the ones with SP2 now retired and SP3 the currently supported version. XP 64 bit was built on the 2003 Server kernel (that is not the same as 2003 Server with themes enabled by the way) and is currently on SP2. It will be retired along with Mainline support for 2003 Server. Oops! 2003 Server went out of mainline support yesterday as well, so goodbye XP 64 bit. The only remaining mainline supported XP versions are therefore 32 bit SP3
If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) [My Articles] [My Website]
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
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This page from ms: http://support.microsoft.com/windowsxpprox64[^] Seems to indicate that XP x64 SP2 counts as XP with SP2. (and, therefore, also lost support, but with different reasoning behind it)
I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.
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I thought service packs are accumulative. The lastest one includes all fixes in the previous ones. If that is the case, retiring SP2 does not really mean anything.
TOMZ_KV
Until today MS issued XP patches and would write hot fixes for both XP SP2 and XP SP3. They're now only doing it for SP3; which means all people who're still on SP2 are no longer getting security updates until they updated to SP3. The group includes an appalling large number of enterprise computers.
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I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.
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Dan Neely wrote:
and windows live desktop apps.
Don't get me started on those - I had to hack their installers! :mad: Really annoying, especially since it just bloody works, so why make it "impossible"? They could just have "unsupported OS. install anyway? yes/no" but I guess that would make too much sense. And that's the only problem I've had with XP x64, which is more than I can say for W7 x64.
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Dan Neely wrote:
and windows live desktop apps.
Don't get me started on those - I had to hack their installers! :mad: Really annoying, especially since it just bloody works, so why make it "impossible"? They could just have "unsupported OS. install anyway? yes/no" but I guess that would make too much sense. And that's the only problem I've had with XP x64, which is more than I can say for W7 x64.
Not entirely sure, seems like spite to me; it's not like the /. crowd would rant any less (from their Linux boxes) about MS releasing something that could be uninstalled on an unsupported platform and went boom than if they just blocked the install. The decision to stop officially supporting XP64 is more understandable; it didn't have a user base large screaming for an extended lifecycle so they're pulling the plug wherever they can for cost reasons. XP64 is only .56% of systems in the steam hardware survey; which is probably higher than in the wider world because gamers are more likely to have high end systems needing a 64bit OS.
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Not entirely sure, seems like spite to me; it's not like the /. crowd would rant any less (from their Linux boxes) about MS releasing something that could be uninstalled on an unsupported platform and went boom than if they just blocked the install. The decision to stop officially supporting XP64 is more understandable; it didn't have a user base large screaming for an extended lifecycle so they're pulling the plug wherever they can for cost reasons. XP64 is only .56% of systems in the steam hardware survey; which is probably higher than in the wider world because gamers are more likely to have high end systems needing a 64bit OS.
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I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.
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That is why I mentioned that 2003 Server has just gone out of support. XP64 SP2 was the 2003 Server Service pack because of the shared kernel. So goodbye 2003 Server, goodbye XP64, goodbye XP32 SP2 and earlier. While we are at it many people still use Office 2003 but that was retired from mainstream support last year. Time to wake up and catch up people!
If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) [My Articles] [My Website]
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
Spent yesterday upgrading the office to SP3, not because of this but because VS2010 requires it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
Why all the fuss about about these new fangled operating systems. some of us still have to use 98 and NT.
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
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This page from ms: http://support.microsoft.com/windowsxpprox64[^] Seems to indicate that XP x64 SP2 counts as XP with SP2. (and, therefore, also lost support, but with different reasoning behind it)
From Microsoft quoted from this page[^] "Note: There's no SP3 for the 64-bit version of Windows XP. If you’re running the 64-bit version of Windows XP with SP2, you have the latest service pack and will continue to be eligible for support and receive updates until April 8, 2014." I use Windows 7 now but I keep my HDD with xp64 on it just in case, maybe because I may have sustained a bit of brain damblage getting it working. :confused:
dbJeebus
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Why would anyone still be using XP? Man oh man how I hated that OS :P (especially it's disgusting looks). So I hope our clients now even have more reason to upgrade. Thanks for the info though :)
Pain has a fond way of lingering for a very long time. When SP3 initially came out, I had calls from all over from clients that had automatic updates turned on and had a dead system. On some of those the only fix was to re-install SP2 from scratch. :mad: Those without backups were not happy campers!
-------------------------------------------- Give me ambiguity or give me something else!
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From Microsoft quoted from this page[^] "Note: There's no SP3 for the 64-bit version of Windows XP. If you’re running the 64-bit version of Windows XP with SP2, you have the latest service pack and will continue to be eligible for support and receive updates until April 8, 2014." I use Windows 7 now but I keep my HDD with xp64 on it just in case, maybe because I may have sustained a bit of brain damblage getting it working. :confused:
dbJeebus
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Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?
Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET
I've still got Windows 98 on one of my PC's. It's useful when testing if my programs work with old operating systems.
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Arun Jacob wrote:
this is the right time to upgrade
only if you can get me a discount.
It would be for you own safety. OS have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if it's not upgraded. You could update to SP3 if you don't want to upgrade to W7 for whatever reasons. It's dangerous not to update your OS. It makes you vulnerable to malware and exploit.
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It would be for you own safety. OS have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if it's not upgraded. You could update to SP3 if you don't want to upgrade to W7 for whatever reasons. It's dangerous not to update your OS. It makes you vulnerable to malware and exploit.
Simon Dufour wrote:
It's dangerous not to update your OS.
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