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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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    Mladen Jankovic
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    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

    view states, postbacks

    Come on - don't blame C# for everything.

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    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

      I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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      Nish Nishant
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      Ah so now you won't have to worry about memory leaks - oh wait a minute! :doh:

      Regards, Nish


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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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        Lost User
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        What's wrong with properties? I'm glad I don't have to do that silly verbose get/set thing anymore..

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          What's wrong with properties? I'm glad I don't have to do that silly verbose get/set thing anymore..

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          Nemanja Trifunovic
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          harold aptroot wrote:

          silly verbose get/set thing anymore..

          Properties are just a little less verbose but still silly get/set things that look like member fields even if they are really methods.

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            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

            view states, postbacks

            Come on - don't blame C# for everything.

            [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            Mladen Jankovic wrote:

            don't blame C# for everything.

            Yes - strictly speaking I should blame ASP.NET web forms for those, but the fact remains I never see them when programming with some other language (VB does not qualify as "other").

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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              Abhinav S
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              Think of it this way - you can always tell the client it "will be fixed in Microsoft's next service pack".

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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                Todd Smith
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                Convert it to ASP.NET MVC and half of those atrocities will disappear.

                Todd Smith

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                  don't blame C# for everything.

                  Yes - strictly speaking I should blame ASP.NET web forms for those, but the fact remains I never see them when programming with some other language (VB does not qualify as "other").

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Actually blame the dipshit developers for forcing app development onto HTTP.

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                    don't blame C# for everything.

                    Yes - strictly speaking I should blame ASP.NET web forms for those, but the fact remains I never see them when programming with some other language (VB does not qualify as "other").

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                    I never see them when programming with some other language (VB does not qualify as "other language").

                    FTFY!

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                    • T Todd Smith

                      Convert it to ASP.NET MVC and half of those atrocities will disappear.

                      Todd Smith

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                      Jargons like that make me want to go to something simpler - like x86 assembly. :laugh:

                      There are some really weird people on this planet - MIM.

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                        Convert it to ASP.NET MVC and half of those atrocities will disappear.

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        Todd Smith wrote:

                        Convert it to ASP.NET MVC

                        Not a very realistic option for such a big project, even if it was up to me to decide, which is not :)

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                          Actually blame the dipshit developers for forcing app development onto HTTP.

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          Actually blame the dipshit developers for forcing app development onto HTTP.

                          I agree. However, the web forms model of trying to cover up the stateless nature of HTTP really does more harm than good.

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                          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                            I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project.

                            They really seem to be playing musical chairs where you work. :)

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                            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                              I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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                              Going "back to C#" would be a bit like going "back to the future", eh? :-D

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              view states

                              It's good that ASP.Net automatically manages that for you, and allows you to customize it, eh?

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              postbacks

                              Or you could use AJAX. Or just JavaScript. Or Silverlight (using C# and, if necessary, web services). Or not develop for the web.

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              properties

                              Which now have a short syntax, and which also allow you to modify a DLL to add functionality later (e.g., if you decide you want to grab a value from the web.config rather than a private constant member) without having to change the code that relies on it. A nifty feature, IMO.

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              dispose patterns

                              Yeah, pointers and manual memory management were so much more "fun".

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              vim for editing code

                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since.

                              I guess some people just like a challenge. You seem like just the type of person who would enjoy QuickBasic 4.5 with some inline machine code. That way, you get a crappy editor AND you can program for one of the hardest possible languages to use. ;)

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                                Going "back to C#" would be a bit like going "back to the future", eh? :-D

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                view states

                                It's good that ASP.Net automatically manages that for you, and allows you to customize it, eh?

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                postbacks

                                Or you could use AJAX. Or just JavaScript. Or Silverlight (using C# and, if necessary, web services). Or not develop for the web.

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                properties

                                Which now have a short syntax, and which also allow you to modify a DLL to add functionality later (e.g., if you decide you want to grab a value from the web.config rather than a private constant member) without having to change the code that relies on it. A nifty feature, IMO.

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                dispose patterns

                                Yeah, pointers and manual memory management were so much more "fun".

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                vim for editing code

                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since.

                                I guess some people just like a challenge. You seem like just the type of person who would enjoy QuickBasic 4.5 with some inline machine code. That way, you get a crappy editor AND you can program for one of the hardest possible languages to use. ;)

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                eh?

                                Meh. Btw - it was not me who downvoted your post.

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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                                  CPallini
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                                  I'm happy with Lua and C at the moment. I've already the moon, so no regrets for the discarded OOP. :rolleyes:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    What's wrong with properties? I'm glad I don't have to do that silly verbose get/set thing anymore..

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                                    If you use public member data (er, "fields") you don't have to do the get/set thing regardless...

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                                      If you use public member data (er, "fields") you don't have to do the get/set thing regardless...

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                                      I don't know.. I thought that was against some Holy Design Rule? :)

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                                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                        harold aptroot wrote:

                                        silly verbose get/set thing anymore..

                                        Properties are just a little less verbose but still silly get/set things that look like member fields even if they are really methods.

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                                        tec goblin
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                                        You are the first person I've ever seen don't liking Properties. They are syntactic sugar but they make the code concise and understandable. Yes they are methods, you know they are, they start with a capital letter, but what's the problem about that?

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          I ran away from C# and got back to real programming some five years ago, and have been happy ever since. Today I found out I was assigned on a C# web project. Welcome back view states, postbacks, properties, dispose patterns and other "joys" I hoped I would never see again :) On the bright side, I can still use vim for editing code.

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                                          tec goblin
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                                          Wait, what's your problem about dispose patterns?

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