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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

    even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

    Have you tested that?

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    AspDotNetDev
    wrote on last edited by
    #36

    With your above observation that "CapeTown" is first attached to Joe and then to Fred, your message makes more sense. I think I like this interview question... all kinds of details to help root out those who don't pay very good attention (I am apparently one of them). :)

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    • C Chris Meech

      The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      #37

      And the number of characters in an entry.

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      • B Brady Kelly

        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

        Region

        Contact

        Cape Town

        Fred

        CapeTown

        Joe

        Cape Town

        Anna

        Durban

        John

        Durban

        Mary

        Johannesburg

        Frank

        Fig. 2

        Region

        Contact

        Durban

        John

        Durban

        Mary

        Johannesburg

        Frank

        Cape Town

        Anna

        CapeTown

        Fred

        Cape Town

        Joe

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        NickHighIQ
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        #38

        First thing's first, the order. It appears to be grouped by Region, the groups are ordered by MIN(Contact) (assuming MIN/MAX works in the way I expect, i.e. SELECT MAX('a', 'z') would return 'z' - never had to do an aggregate over varchar fields, thank GOD) and then ordered by Contact ascending. Thought process: Durban, JBurg, Cape Town - no obvious ordering there, but they're grouped... John, Mary - alphabetical Anna, Fred, Joe - alphabetical John, Frank, Anna - alphabetical (desc), so the earliest name in the alphabet in each region is used to order the regions... So, here's the SQL (SQL Server 2008):

        SELECT
        Region, Contact
        FROM
        TheStupidestTableEver
        ORDER BY
        MIN(Contact) OVER(PARTITION BY Region) desc, Contact

        Results:

        Region Contact

        Durban John
        Durban Mary
        Johannesburg Frank
        Cape Town Anna
        Cape Town Fred
        Cape Town Joe

        So, do I win a prize? ;P In fact, I don't need one, that was a satisfying problem to solve :-D

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        • B Brady Kelly

          The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

          select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
          union all
          select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
          order by outerSeq

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          Serguei
          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          SELECT Region, Contact
          FROM Fig1
          ORDER BY
          CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
          Contact

          Tip, you can do:

          SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

          Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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          • S Slacker007

            SELECT * FROM YourTable ORDERBY Durban, Johannesburg, CapeTown INTHATORDER

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            Michael Kingsford Gray
            wrote on last edited by
            #40

            Won't work. The middle "Cape Town" has the blank missing, and is "CapeTown" This makes it a very hard problem.

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            • S Serguei

              SELECT Region, Contact
              FROM Fig1
              ORDER BY
              CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
              Contact

              Tip, you can do:

              SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

              Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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              Brady Kelly
              wrote on last edited by
              #41

              Thanks, I especially like the top 100 percent

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              • B Brady Kelly

                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                Region

                Contact

                Cape Town

                Fred

                CapeTown

                Joe

                Cape Town

                Anna

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Fig. 2

                Region

                Contact

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Cape Town

                Anna

                CapeTown

                Fred

                Cape Town

                Joe

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                altncsab
                wrote on last edited by
                #42

                This is my solution. Because there was no pre-condition then anything is allowed :-D

                declare @T_MyTable Table(Region varchar(200), Contact varchar(200))

                select case when Contact = 'Fred' and Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'CapeTown'
                when Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'Cape Town'
                else Region end Region,
                Contact
                from @T_MyTable
                order by substring(Region,2,1) desc, Contact

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                  Region

                  Contact

                  Cape Town

                  Fred

                  CapeTown

                  Joe

                  Cape Town

                  Anna

                  Durban

                  John

                  Durban

                  Mary

                  Johannesburg

                  Frank

                  Fig. 2

                  Region

                  Contact

                  Durban

                  John

                  Durban

                  Mary

                  Johannesburg

                  Frank

                  Cape Town

                  Anna

                  CapeTown

                  Fred

                  Cape Town

                  Joe

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                  Simon_Duckett
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #43

                  SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                    Region

                    Contact

                    Cape Town

                    Fred

                    CapeTown

                    Joe

                    Cape Town

                    Anna

                    Durban

                    John

                    Durban

                    Mary

                    Johannesburg

                    Frank

                    Fig. 2

                    Region

                    Contact

                    Durban

                    John

                    Durban

                    Mary

                    Johannesburg

                    Frank

                    Cape Town

                    Anna

                    CapeTown

                    Fred

                    Cape Town

                    Joe

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                    KP Lee
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #44

                    This doesn't look like a question geared to testing your SQL skills, but your skill at defining "real" requirements from something that seems very silly at first. 1. Assume the person asking this, isn't a lune escaped from the asylum. 2. Try to find the underlying order that they are requesting. 3. ASK them what the underlying order is, suggesting a possibility. 4 ASK them the schema information you need in order to write the query. Sort of like: I see these regions are all in South Africa. I'm not that informed about that area, are you ordering this query by population? No? What is the order criteria you are using? Then find out if the criteria is in the table you are querying? Or they could be testing your knowledge of DB design and waiting for you to ask why the H the region and the name are stored in the same table in the first place. Failing all that, just answer the question. There are a bunch of ways to do it. You can throw in a case statement in a batch select and select the two fields and order by the case result, the union all solution would work, creating a temp table and joining with it is a third option.

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                      Region

                      Contact

                      Cape Town

                      Fred

                      CapeTown

                      Joe

                      Cape Town

                      Anna

                      Durban

                      John

                      Durban

                      Mary

                      Johannesburg

                      Frank

                      Fig. 2

                      Region

                      Contact

                      Durban

                      John

                      Durban

                      Mary

                      Johannesburg

                      Frank

                      Cape Town

                      Anna

                      CapeTown

                      Fred

                      Cape Town

                      Joe

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                      James H
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #45

                      SELECT Region, Contact FROM RegionTable ORDER BY SubString(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

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                      • S Simon_Duckett

                        SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                        James H
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #46

                        Ha - you beat me

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Cape Town

                          Fred

                          CapeTown

                          Joe

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Fig. 2

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          CapeTown

                          Fred

                          Cape Town

                          Joe

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                          Mark_Wallace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #47

                          It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Cape Town

                            Fred

                            CapeTown

                            Joe

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Fig. 2

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            CapeTown

                            Fred

                            Cape Town

                            Joe

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                            PhilLeTaxi
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #48

                            Hi, With this request,

                            SELECT region, contact FROM `localisation` ORDER BY SUBSTRING(region,2,2) DESC, contact ASC

                            I obtain :

                            region contact
                            Durban John
                            Durban Mary
                            Johannesburg Frank
                            Cape Town Anna
                            Cape Town Fred
                            CapeTown Joe

                            The list is ordered regarding the second letter of the region. To avoid the missing blank in CapeTown, the end of the string is cut. Bye

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Brady Kelly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #49

                              It didn't strike me as that It's in order of Region, Contact asc, but it starts at the 2nd region, wrapping around to the first.

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Cape Town

                                Fred

                                CapeTown

                                Joe

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Fig. 2

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                CapeTown

                                Fred

                                Cape Town

                                Joe

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                                Xapp
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                                #50

                                SELECT * FROM t ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REPLACE(Region, ' ', '') FROM 2) DESC, Contact ASC Tricky.

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                                • B Brady Kelly

                                  I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Cape Town

                                  Fred

                                  CapeTown

                                  Joe

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Fig. 2

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  CapeTown

                                  Fred

                                  Cape Town

                                  Joe

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                                  PhilLeTaxi
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #51

                                  Hi Again, Oups, I didn't see the response of James H. which has found the same solution. Sorry for the noise. Bye

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                                  • B Brady Kelly

                                    I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Cape Town

                                    Fred

                                    CapeTown

                                    Joe

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Fig. 2

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    CapeTown

                                    Fred

                                    Cape Town

                                    Joe

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                                    Narud Shiro
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #52

                                    Guessing that we are using talking of SQL Server, and without using case when, union, or any other thing like them, this is my best: select Region, Contact from Contacts order by replace(Region, ' ', ''), Contact Can you give me a B+ at least, teacher?

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                                    • N Narud Shiro

                                      Guessing that we are using talking of SQL Server, and without using case when, union, or any other thing like them, this is my best: select Region, Contact from Contacts order by replace(Region, ' ', ''), Contact Can you give me a B+ at least, teacher?

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                                      PhilLeTaxi
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #53

                                      Hi, Your request gives this result :

                                      region contact
                                      Cape Town Anna
                                      Cape Town Fred
                                      CapeTown Joe
                                      Durban John
                                      Durban Mary
                                      Johannesburg Frank

                                      This is slightly different from the expected result. Bye

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        OK, so it's sorted by two fields we can't see ( region and email address ) ?

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        ghle
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #54

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        OK, so it's sorted by two fields we can't see ( region and email address ) ?

                                        I think he meant that the test was sent to him via e-mail, not that e-mail was a hidden field.:confused: Heck, I'd just order by the hidden Sequence field. :)

                                        Gary

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Cape Town

                                          Fred

                                          CapeTown

                                          Joe

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Fig. 2

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          CapeTown

                                          Fred

                                          Cape Town

                                          Joe

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                                          Member 96
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #55

                                          A job application test that doesn't reflect a real world problem is an utter waste of time and whoever devised this should be kicked in the balls and repeatedly told to "get real".


                                          “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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