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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

    SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
    ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

    This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Vader (Star Wars Gangsta Rap):

    Impressive, now release your anger; can't you sense that your friends are in danger?

    The impressiveness of your solution and you being who you are reminded me of that quote. :)

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    • C Christian Graus

      Yeah, I expect that's the main thing he was to glean from the question.

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D Edit: WTF?! How'd it wind up attached to the wrong post? Sorry, just playing through...

      modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:44 PM

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        Cape Town

        According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

          SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
          ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

          This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

          I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

          Have you tested that?

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

            Have you tested that?

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            He's only looking at the second character. In the case of "CapeTown", that'd be "a". In the case of "Cape Town", that'd be "a". What's there to test?

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe?

              I hadn't noticed that.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

                Have you tested that?

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                AspDotNetDev
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                #36

                With your above observation that "CapeTown" is first attached to Joe and then to Fred, your message makes more sense. I think I like this interview question... all kinds of details to help root out those who don't pay very good attention (I am apparently one of them). :)

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                • C Chris Meech

                  The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  And the number of characters in an entry.

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                    Region

                    Contact

                    Cape Town

                    Fred

                    CapeTown

                    Joe

                    Cape Town

                    Anna

                    Durban

                    John

                    Durban

                    Mary

                    Johannesburg

                    Frank

                    Fig. 2

                    Region

                    Contact

                    Durban

                    John

                    Durban

                    Mary

                    Johannesburg

                    Frank

                    Cape Town

                    Anna

                    CapeTown

                    Fred

                    Cape Town

                    Joe

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                    NickHighIQ
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                    First thing's first, the order. It appears to be grouped by Region, the groups are ordered by MIN(Contact) (assuming MIN/MAX works in the way I expect, i.e. SELECT MAX('a', 'z') would return 'z' - never had to do an aggregate over varchar fields, thank GOD) and then ordered by Contact ascending. Thought process: Durban, JBurg, Cape Town - no obvious ordering there, but they're grouped... John, Mary - alphabetical Anna, Fred, Joe - alphabetical John, Frank, Anna - alphabetical (desc), so the earliest name in the alphabet in each region is used to order the regions... So, here's the SQL (SQL Server 2008):

                    SELECT
                    Region, Contact
                    FROM
                    TheStupidestTableEver
                    ORDER BY
                    MIN(Contact) OVER(PARTITION BY Region) desc, Contact

                    Results:

                    Region Contact

                    Durban John
                    Durban Mary
                    Johannesburg Frank
                    Cape Town Anna
                    Cape Town Fred
                    Cape Town Joe

                    So, do I win a prize? ;P In fact, I don't need one, that was a satisfying problem to solve :-D

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

                      select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
                      union all
                      select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
                      order by outerSeq

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                      Serguei
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                      #39

                      SELECT Region, Contact
                      FROM Fig1
                      ORDER BY
                      CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                      Contact

                      Tip, you can do:

                      SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                      Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                      • S Slacker007

                        SELECT * FROM YourTable ORDERBY Durban, Johannesburg, CapeTown INTHATORDER

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                        Michael Kingsford Gray
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                        #40

                        Won't work. The middle "Cape Town" has the blank missing, and is "CapeTown" This makes it a very hard problem.

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                        • S Serguei

                          SELECT Region, Contact
                          FROM Fig1
                          ORDER BY
                          CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                          Contact

                          Tip, you can do:

                          SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                          Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          #41

                          Thanks, I especially like the top 100 percent

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Cape Town

                            Fred

                            CapeTown

                            Joe

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Fig. 2

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            CapeTown

                            Fred

                            Cape Town

                            Joe

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                            #42

                            This is my solution. Because there was no pre-condition then anything is allowed :-D

                            declare @T_MyTable Table(Region varchar(200), Contact varchar(200))

                            select case when Contact = 'Fred' and Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'CapeTown'
                            when Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'Cape Town'
                            else Region end Region,
                            Contact
                            from @T_MyTable
                            order by substring(Region,2,1) desc, Contact

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Cape Town

                              Fred

                              CapeTown

                              Joe

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Fig. 2

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              CapeTown

                              Fred

                              Cape Town

                              Joe

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                              Simon_Duckett
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                              #43

                              SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Cape Town

                                Fred

                                CapeTown

                                Joe

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Fig. 2

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                CapeTown

                                Fred

                                Cape Town

                                Joe

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                                KP Lee
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                                #44

                                This doesn't look like a question geared to testing your SQL skills, but your skill at defining "real" requirements from something that seems very silly at first. 1. Assume the person asking this, isn't a lune escaped from the asylum. 2. Try to find the underlying order that they are requesting. 3. ASK them what the underlying order is, suggesting a possibility. 4 ASK them the schema information you need in order to write the query. Sort of like: I see these regions are all in South Africa. I'm not that informed about that area, are you ordering this query by population? No? What is the order criteria you are using? Then find out if the criteria is in the table you are querying? Or they could be testing your knowledge of DB design and waiting for you to ask why the H the region and the name are stored in the same table in the first place. Failing all that, just answer the question. There are a bunch of ways to do it. You can throw in a case statement in a batch select and select the two fields and order by the case result, the union all solution would work, creating a temp table and joining with it is a third option.

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                                • B Brady Kelly

                                  I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Cape Town

                                  Fred

                                  CapeTown

                                  Joe

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Fig. 2

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  CapeTown

                                  Fred

                                  Cape Town

                                  Joe

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                                  James H
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                                  #45

                                  SELECT Region, Contact FROM RegionTable ORDER BY SubString(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

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                                  • S Simon_Duckett

                                    SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                                    Ha - you beat me

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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Cape Town

                                      Fred

                                      CapeTown

                                      Joe

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Fig. 2

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      CapeTown

                                      Fred

                                      Cape Town

                                      Joe

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Cape Town

                                        Fred

                                        CapeTown

                                        Joe

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Fig. 2

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        CapeTown

                                        Fred

                                        Cape Town

                                        Joe

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                                        PhilLeTaxi
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                                        Hi, With this request,

                                        SELECT region, contact FROM `localisation` ORDER BY SUBSTRING(region,2,2) DESC, contact ASC

                                        I obtain :

                                        region contact
                                        Durban John
                                        Durban Mary
                                        Johannesburg Frank
                                        Cape Town Anna
                                        Cape Town Fred
                                        CapeTown Joe

                                        The list is ordered regarding the second letter of the region. To avoid the missing blank in CapeTown, the end of the string is cut. Bye

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                                        • M Mark_Wallace

                                          It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          Brady Kelly
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                                          It didn't strike me as that It's in order of Region, Contact asc, but it starts at the 2nd region, wrapping around to the first.

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