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  • B Brady Kelly

    Haha, no, I suspect it was a typo on their part, but I treated it like I would a landmine. :~

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    What? Hold a protest rally outside the Pentagon? :confused:

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    • T Tomz_KV

      select region, contact from ( select region, contact, case when region='Johannesburg' then 5 when region='Durban' then 1 else 10 end as Expr1 from TableName ) as Tbl order by Expr1, Contact

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      Single Step Debugger
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      This is shorter than my solution, I like it!:thumbsup:

      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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      • B Brady Kelly

        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

        Region

        Contact

        Cape Town

        Fred

        CapeTown

        Joe

        Cape Town

        Anna

        Durban

        John

        Durban

        Mary

        Johannesburg

        Frank

        Fig. 2

        Region

        Contact

        Durban

        John

        Durban

        Mary

        Johannesburg

        Frank

        Cape Town

        Anna

        CapeTown

        Fred

        Cape Town

        Joe

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

        SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
        ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

        This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          The correct answer is: "With which database system?" P.S. With Access/Jet via ADO.net:

          select * from RegionContact order by len(Region) mod 2,Region,Contact

          Region Contact


          Durban John
          Durban Mary
          Johannesburg Frank
          Cape Town Anna
          Cape Town Fred
          Cape Town Joe

          6 records affected.

          modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:03 PM

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          AspDotNetDev
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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Cape Town

          According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

            SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
            ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

            This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

            I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            Christian Graus
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            If I was the interviewer, I'd have hired you based on that answer.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

              SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
              ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

              This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

              I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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              Vader (Star Wars Gangsta Rap):

              Impressive, now release your anger; can't you sense that your friends are in danger?

              The impressiveness of your solution and you being who you are reminded me of that quote. :)

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              • C Christian Graus

                Yeah, I expect that's the main thing he was to glean from the question.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D Edit: WTF?! How'd it wind up attached to the wrong post? Sorry, just playing through...

                modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:44 PM

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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  Cape Town

                  According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  #32

                  Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

                    SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
                    ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

                    This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

                    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

                    Have you tested that?

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

                      Have you tested that?

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                      AspDotNetDev
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                      #34

                      He's only looking at the second character. In the case of "CapeTown", that'd be "a". In the case of "Cape Town", that'd be "a". What's there to test?

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe?

                        I hadn't noticed that.

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

                          Have you tested that?

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          #36

                          With your above observation that "CapeTown" is first attached to Joe and then to Fred, your message makes more sense. I think I like this interview question... all kinds of details to help root out those who don't pay very good attention (I am apparently one of them). :)

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                          • C Chris Meech

                            The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            And the number of characters in an entry.

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Cape Town

                              Fred

                              CapeTown

                              Joe

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Fig. 2

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              CapeTown

                              Fred

                              Cape Town

                              Joe

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                              NickHighIQ
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                              First thing's first, the order. It appears to be grouped by Region, the groups are ordered by MIN(Contact) (assuming MIN/MAX works in the way I expect, i.e. SELECT MAX('a', 'z') would return 'z' - never had to do an aggregate over varchar fields, thank GOD) and then ordered by Contact ascending. Thought process: Durban, JBurg, Cape Town - no obvious ordering there, but they're grouped... John, Mary - alphabetical Anna, Fred, Joe - alphabetical John, Frank, Anna - alphabetical (desc), so the earliest name in the alphabet in each region is used to order the regions... So, here's the SQL (SQL Server 2008):

                              SELECT
                              Region, Contact
                              FROM
                              TheStupidestTableEver
                              ORDER BY
                              MIN(Contact) OVER(PARTITION BY Region) desc, Contact

                              Results:

                              Region Contact

                              Durban John
                              Durban Mary
                              Johannesburg Frank
                              Cape Town Anna
                              Cape Town Fred
                              Cape Town Joe

                              So, do I win a prize? ;P In fact, I don't need one, that was a satisfying problem to solve :-D

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

                                select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
                                union all
                                select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
                                order by outerSeq

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                                Serguei
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                                #39

                                SELECT Region, Contact
                                FROM Fig1
                                ORDER BY
                                CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                                Contact

                                Tip, you can do:

                                SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                                Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                                • S Slacker007

                                  SELECT * FROM YourTable ORDERBY Durban, Johannesburg, CapeTown INTHATORDER

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                                  Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                  Won't work. The middle "Cape Town" has the blank missing, and is "CapeTown" This makes it a very hard problem.

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                                  • S Serguei

                                    SELECT Region, Contact
                                    FROM Fig1
                                    ORDER BY
                                    CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                                    Contact

                                    Tip, you can do:

                                    SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                                    Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    Thanks, I especially like the top 100 percent

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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Cape Town

                                      Fred

                                      CapeTown

                                      Joe

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Fig. 2

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      CapeTown

                                      Fred

                                      Cape Town

                                      Joe

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                                      altncsab
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                                      This is my solution. Because there was no pre-condition then anything is allowed :-D

                                      declare @T_MyTable Table(Region varchar(200), Contact varchar(200))

                                      select case when Contact = 'Fred' and Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'CapeTown'
                                      when Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'Cape Town'
                                      else Region end Region,
                                      Contact
                                      from @T_MyTable
                                      order by substring(Region,2,1) desc, Contact

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Cape Town

                                        Fred

                                        CapeTown

                                        Joe

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Fig. 2

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        CapeTown

                                        Fred

                                        Cape Town

                                        Joe

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                                        SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Cape Town

                                          Fred

                                          CapeTown

                                          Joe

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Fig. 2

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          CapeTown

                                          Fred

                                          Cape Town

                                          Joe

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                                          KP Lee
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                                          #44

                                          This doesn't look like a question geared to testing your SQL skills, but your skill at defining "real" requirements from something that seems very silly at first. 1. Assume the person asking this, isn't a lune escaped from the asylum. 2. Try to find the underlying order that they are requesting. 3. ASK them what the underlying order is, suggesting a possibility. 4 ASK them the schema information you need in order to write the query. Sort of like: I see these regions are all in South Africa. I'm not that informed about that area, are you ordering this query by population? No? What is the order criteria you are using? Then find out if the criteria is in the table you are querying? Or they could be testing your knowledge of DB design and waiting for you to ask why the H the region and the name are stored in the same table in the first place. Failing all that, just answer the question. There are a bunch of ways to do it. You can throw in a case statement in a batch select and select the two fields and order by the case result, the union all solution would work, creating a temp table and joining with it is a third option.

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