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  • A AspDotNetDev

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    Cape Town

    According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

      SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
      ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

      This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

      I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

      Have you tested that?

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

        Have you tested that?

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        AspDotNetDev
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        #34

        He's only looking at the second character. In the case of "CapeTown", that'd be "a". In the case of "Cape Town", that'd be "a". What's there to test?

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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          AspDotNetDev
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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe?

          I hadn't noticed that.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

            Have you tested that?

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            AspDotNetDev
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            #36

            With your above observation that "CapeTown" is first attached to Joe and then to Fred, your message makes more sense. I think I like this interview question... all kinds of details to help root out those who don't pay very good attention (I am apparently one of them). :)

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            • C Chris Meech

              The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              And the number of characters in an entry.

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              • B Brady Kelly

                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                Region

                Contact

                Cape Town

                Fred

                CapeTown

                Joe

                Cape Town

                Anna

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Fig. 2

                Region

                Contact

                Durban

                John

                Durban

                Mary

                Johannesburg

                Frank

                Cape Town

                Anna

                CapeTown

                Fred

                Cape Town

                Joe

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                NickHighIQ
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                #38

                First thing's first, the order. It appears to be grouped by Region, the groups are ordered by MIN(Contact) (assuming MIN/MAX works in the way I expect, i.e. SELECT MAX('a', 'z') would return 'z' - never had to do an aggregate over varchar fields, thank GOD) and then ordered by Contact ascending. Thought process: Durban, JBurg, Cape Town - no obvious ordering there, but they're grouped... John, Mary - alphabetical Anna, Fred, Joe - alphabetical John, Frank, Anna - alphabetical (desc), so the earliest name in the alphabet in each region is used to order the regions... So, here's the SQL (SQL Server 2008):

                SELECT
                Region, Contact
                FROM
                TheStupidestTableEver
                ORDER BY
                MIN(Contact) OVER(PARTITION BY Region) desc, Contact

                Results:

                Region Contact

                Durban John
                Durban Mary
                Johannesburg Frank
                Cape Town Anna
                Cape Town Fred
                Cape Town Joe

                So, do I win a prize? ;P In fact, I don't need one, that was a satisfying problem to solve :-D

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

                  select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
                  union all
                  select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
                  order by outerSeq

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                  Serguei
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                  #39

                  SELECT Region, Contact
                  FROM Fig1
                  ORDER BY
                  CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                  Contact

                  Tip, you can do:

                  SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                  Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                  • S Slacker007

                    SELECT * FROM YourTable ORDERBY Durban, Johannesburg, CapeTown INTHATORDER

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                    Michael Kingsford Gray
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #40

                    Won't work. The middle "Cape Town" has the blank missing, and is "CapeTown" This makes it a very hard problem.

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                    • S Serguei

                      SELECT Region, Contact
                      FROM Fig1
                      ORDER BY
                      CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                      Contact

                      Tip, you can do:

                      SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                      Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                      Brady Kelly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #41

                      Thanks, I especially like the top 100 percent

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                        Region

                        Contact

                        Cape Town

                        Fred

                        CapeTown

                        Joe

                        Cape Town

                        Anna

                        Durban

                        John

                        Durban

                        Mary

                        Johannesburg

                        Frank

                        Fig. 2

                        Region

                        Contact

                        Durban

                        John

                        Durban

                        Mary

                        Johannesburg

                        Frank

                        Cape Town

                        Anna

                        CapeTown

                        Fred

                        Cape Town

                        Joe

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                        altncsab
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                        #42

                        This is my solution. Because there was no pre-condition then anything is allowed :-D

                        declare @T_MyTable Table(Region varchar(200), Contact varchar(200))

                        select case when Contact = 'Fred' and Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'CapeTown'
                        when Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'Cape Town'
                        else Region end Region,
                        Contact
                        from @T_MyTable
                        order by substring(Region,2,1) desc, Contact

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Cape Town

                          Fred

                          CapeTown

                          Joe

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Fig. 2

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          CapeTown

                          Fred

                          Cape Town

                          Joe

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                          Simon_Duckett
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #43

                          SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Cape Town

                            Fred

                            CapeTown

                            Joe

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Fig. 2

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            CapeTown

                            Fred

                            Cape Town

                            Joe

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                            KP Lee
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #44

                            This doesn't look like a question geared to testing your SQL skills, but your skill at defining "real" requirements from something that seems very silly at first. 1. Assume the person asking this, isn't a lune escaped from the asylum. 2. Try to find the underlying order that they are requesting. 3. ASK them what the underlying order is, suggesting a possibility. 4 ASK them the schema information you need in order to write the query. Sort of like: I see these regions are all in South Africa. I'm not that informed about that area, are you ordering this query by population? No? What is the order criteria you are using? Then find out if the criteria is in the table you are querying? Or they could be testing your knowledge of DB design and waiting for you to ask why the H the region and the name are stored in the same table in the first place. Failing all that, just answer the question. There are a bunch of ways to do it. You can throw in a case statement in a batch select and select the two fields and order by the case result, the union all solution would work, creating a temp table and joining with it is a third option.

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Cape Town

                              Fred

                              CapeTown

                              Joe

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Fig. 2

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              CapeTown

                              Fred

                              Cape Town

                              Joe

                              J Offline
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                              James H
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                              #45

                              SELECT Region, Contact FROM RegionTable ORDER BY SubString(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

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                              • S Simon_Duckett

                                SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                                James H
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                                #46

                                Ha - you beat me

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                                • B Brady Kelly

                                  I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Cape Town

                                  Fred

                                  CapeTown

                                  Joe

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Fig. 2

                                  Region

                                  Contact

                                  Durban

                                  John

                                  Durban

                                  Mary

                                  Johannesburg

                                  Frank

                                  Cape Town

                                  Anna

                                  CapeTown

                                  Fred

                                  Cape Town

                                  Joe

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                                  Mark_Wallace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #47

                                  It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • B Brady Kelly

                                    I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Cape Town

                                    Fred

                                    CapeTown

                                    Joe

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Fig. 2

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    CapeTown

                                    Fred

                                    Cape Town

                                    Joe

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                                    PhilLeTaxi
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                                    #48

                                    Hi, With this request,

                                    SELECT region, contact FROM `localisation` ORDER BY SUBSTRING(region,2,2) DESC, contact ASC

                                    I obtain :

                                    region contact
                                    Durban John
                                    Durban Mary
                                    Johannesburg Frank
                                    Cape Town Anna
                                    Cape Town Fred
                                    CapeTown Joe

                                    The list is ordered regarding the second letter of the region. To avoid the missing blank in CapeTown, the end of the string is cut. Bye

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Brady Kelly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #49

                                      It didn't strike me as that It's in order of Region, Contact asc, but it starts at the 2nd region, wrapping around to the first.

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Cape Town

                                        Fred

                                        CapeTown

                                        Joe

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Fig. 2

                                        Region

                                        Contact

                                        Durban

                                        John

                                        Durban

                                        Mary

                                        Johannesburg

                                        Frank

                                        Cape Town

                                        Anna

                                        CapeTown

                                        Fred

                                        Cape Town

                                        Joe

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                                        Xapp
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                                        SELECT * FROM t ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REPLACE(Region, ' ', '') FROM 2) DESC, Contact ASC Tricky.

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Cape Town

                                          Fred

                                          CapeTown

                                          Joe

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Fig. 2

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          CapeTown

                                          Fred

                                          Cape Town

                                          Joe

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                                          PhilLeTaxi
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                                          #51

                                          Hi Again, Oups, I didn't see the response of James H. which has found the same solution. Sorry for the noise. Bye

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