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  • C Christian Graus

    Yeah, I expect that's the main thing he was to glean from the question.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D Edit: WTF?! How'd it wind up attached to the wrong post? Sorry, just playing through...

    modified on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:44 PM

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      Cape Town

      According to the OP, one of those should be without a space.

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Well, one way to do this would be to do something along the lines of:

        SELECT Region, Contact FROM WhatACrappyTest
        ORDER BY SUBSTRING(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

        This works based on the fact that the second character is ordered descending, and the contact orders ascending. This even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town in the Region column. Obviously, the interviewer should be challenged on the validity of this question.

        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

        Have you tested that?

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

          Have you tested that?

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          AspDotNetDev
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          #34

          He's only looking at the second character. In the case of "CapeTown", that'd be "a". In the case of "Cape Town", that'd be "a". What's there to test?

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe? I performed some data cleanup, so sue me. :-D (Now lets see if it stays where it's supposed to be.) :mad:

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            AspDotNetDev
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            #35

            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            Sure, but which one? Fred or Joe?

            I hadn't noticed that.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              even takes the fact that your have CapeTown and Cape Town

              Have you tested that?

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              AspDotNetDev
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              #36

              With your above observation that "CapeTown" is first attached to Joe and then to Fred, your message makes more sense. I think I like this interview question... all kinds of details to help root out those who don't pay very good attention (I am apparently one of them). :)

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              • C Chris Meech

                The only obvious ordering sequence is the number of capitalized letters in Region, followed by the Region, followed by the Contact. :)

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                #37

                And the number of characters in an entry.

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                  Region

                  Contact

                  Cape Town

                  Fred

                  CapeTown

                  Joe

                  Cape Town

                  Anna

                  Durban

                  John

                  Durban

                  Mary

                  Johannesburg

                  Frank

                  Fig. 2

                  Region

                  Contact

                  Durban

                  John

                  Durban

                  Mary

                  Johannesburg

                  Frank

                  Cape Town

                  Anna

                  CapeTown

                  Fred

                  Cape Town

                  Joe

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                  NickHighIQ
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                  #38

                  First thing's first, the order. It appears to be grouped by Region, the groups are ordered by MIN(Contact) (assuming MIN/MAX works in the way I expect, i.e. SELECT MAX('a', 'z') would return 'z' - never had to do an aggregate over varchar fields, thank GOD) and then ordered by Contact ascending. Thought process: Durban, JBurg, Cape Town - no obvious ordering there, but they're grouped... John, Mary - alphabetical Anna, Fred, Joe - alphabetical John, Frank, Anna - alphabetical (desc), so the earliest name in the alphabet in each region is used to order the regions... So, here's the SQL (SQL Server 2008):

                  SELECT
                  Region, Contact
                  FROM
                  TheStupidestTableEver
                  ORDER BY
                  MIN(Contact) OVER(PARTITION BY Region) desc, Contact

                  Results:

                  Region Contact

                  Durban John
                  Durban Mary
                  Johannesburg Frank
                  Cape Town Anna
                  Cape Town Fred
                  Cape Town Joe

                  So, do I win a prize? ;P In fact, I don't need one, that was a satisfying problem to solve :-D

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    The ORDER BY clause is invalid in views, inline functions, derived tables, subqueries, and common table expressions, unless TOP or FOR XML is also specified. :) Here is mine, a little more general but very much the same:

                    select first.*, 0 outerSeq from (select top(select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region >= 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) first
                    union all
                    select second.*, 1 outerSeq from (select top (select COUNT(*) from Contacts) * from Contacts where Region < 'Durban' order by Region, Contact) as second
                    order by outerSeq

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                    Serguei
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                    #39

                    SELECT Region, Contact
                    FROM Fig1
                    ORDER BY
                    CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                    Contact

                    Tip, you can do:

                    SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                    Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                    • S Slacker007

                      SELECT * FROM YourTable ORDERBY Durban, Johannesburg, CapeTown INTHATORDER

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                      Michael Kingsford Gray
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                      #40

                      Won't work. The middle "Cape Town" has the blank missing, and is "CapeTown" This makes it a very hard problem.

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                      • S Serguei

                        SELECT Region, Contact
                        FROM Fig1
                        ORDER BY
                        CASE Region WHEN 'Durban' THEN 1 ELSE 2 END,
                        Contact

                        Tip, you can do:

                        SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT * FROM Fig1

                        Even better tip: Don't do that - your query doesn't guarantee (although will more than likely result in) the correct ordering. You should have sorted by outerSeq, Contact in the outer query. See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/queryoptteam/archive/2006/03/24/560396.aspx

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        #41

                        Thanks, I especially like the top 100 percent

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Cape Town

                          Fred

                          CapeTown

                          Joe

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Fig. 2

                          Region

                          Contact

                          Durban

                          John

                          Durban

                          Mary

                          Johannesburg

                          Frank

                          Cape Town

                          Anna

                          CapeTown

                          Fred

                          Cape Town

                          Joe

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                          altncsab
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                          #42

                          This is my solution. Because there was no pre-condition then anything is allowed :-D

                          declare @T_MyTable Table(Region varchar(200), Contact varchar(200))

                          select case when Contact = 'Fred' and Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'CapeTown'
                          when Region like 'Cape%Town' then 'Cape Town'
                          else Region end Region,
                          Contact
                          from @T_MyTable
                          order by substring(Region,2,1) desc, Contact

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Cape Town

                            Fred

                            CapeTown

                            Joe

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Fig. 2

                            Region

                            Contact

                            Durban

                            John

                            Durban

                            Mary

                            Johannesburg

                            Frank

                            Cape Town

                            Anna

                            CapeTown

                            Fred

                            Cape Town

                            Joe

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                            Simon_Duckett
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                            #43

                            SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Cape Town

                              Fred

                              CapeTown

                              Joe

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Fig. 2

                              Region

                              Contact

                              Durban

                              John

                              Durban

                              Mary

                              Johannesburg

                              Frank

                              Cape Town

                              Anna

                              CapeTown

                              Fred

                              Cape Town

                              Joe

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                              KP Lee
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                              #44

                              This doesn't look like a question geared to testing your SQL skills, but your skill at defining "real" requirements from something that seems very silly at first. 1. Assume the person asking this, isn't a lune escaped from the asylum. 2. Try to find the underlying order that they are requesting. 3. ASK them what the underlying order is, suggesting a possibility. 4 ASK them the schema information you need in order to write the query. Sort of like: I see these regions are all in South Africa. I'm not that informed about that area, are you ordering this query by population? No? What is the order criteria you are using? Then find out if the criteria is in the table you are querying? Or they could be testing your knowledge of DB design and waiting for you to ask why the H the region and the name are stored in the same table in the first place. Failing all that, just answer the question. There are a bunch of ways to do it. You can throw in a case statement in a batch select and select the two fields and order by the case result, the union all solution would work, creating a temp table and joining with it is a third option.

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Cape Town

                                Fred

                                CapeTown

                                Joe

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Fig. 2

                                Region

                                Contact

                                Durban

                                John

                                Durban

                                Mary

                                Johannesburg

                                Frank

                                Cape Town

                                Anna

                                CapeTown

                                Fred

                                Cape Town

                                Joe

                                J Offline
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                                James H
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                                #45

                                SELECT Region, Contact FROM RegionTable ORDER BY SubString(Region,2,1) DESC, Contact ASC

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                                • S Simon_Duckett

                                  SELECT [Region], [Contact] FROM Table1 ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REVERSE([Region]), 2, 1), [Contact]

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                                  James H
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                                  Ha - you beat me

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                                  • B Brady Kelly

                                    I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Cape Town

                                    Fred

                                    CapeTown

                                    Joe

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Fig. 2

                                    Region

                                    Contact

                                    Durban

                                    John

                                    Durban

                                    Mary

                                    Johannesburg

                                    Frank

                                    Cape Town

                                    Anna

                                    CapeTown

                                    Fred

                                    Cape Town

                                    Joe

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    #47

                                    It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Cape Town

                                      Fred

                                      CapeTown

                                      Joe

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Fig. 2

                                      Region

                                      Contact

                                      Durban

                                      John

                                      Durban

                                      Mary

                                      Johannesburg

                                      Frank

                                      Cape Town

                                      Anna

                                      CapeTown

                                      Fred

                                      Cape Town

                                      Joe

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                                      PhilLeTaxi
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                                      #48

                                      Hi, With this request,

                                      SELECT region, contact FROM `localisation` ORDER BY SUBSTRING(region,2,2) DESC, contact ASC

                                      I obtain :

                                      region contact
                                      Durban John
                                      Durban Mary
                                      Johannesburg Frank
                                      Cape Town Anna
                                      Cape Town Fred
                                      CapeTown Joe

                                      The list is ordered regarding the second letter of the region. To avoid the missing blank in CapeTown, the end of the string is cut. Bye

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        It's a ridiculous question. If there's a reason for ordering as in ex.2, then there must be data that allows the order in that or another table (area code, telephone dialing code, or whatever). If such data isn't available, then the correct answer to the question would be to add a column for it. Otherwise, if it's just an arbitrary order for existing data, use an arbitrary solution -- the second letter of each location in reverse alphabetical order, for example -- then stuff it up the questioner's @rse.

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                                        Brady Kelly
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                                        It didn't strike me as that It's in order of Region, Contact asc, but it starts at the 2nd region, wrapping around to the first.

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I'm not looking for an answer here, I found my own, but this is quite a hard question. Given the table from Fig.1, write an SQL Select statement that would re-organize the results to look like Fig.2 Fig. 1

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Cape Town

                                          Fred

                                          CapeTown

                                          Joe

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Fig. 2

                                          Region

                                          Contact

                                          Durban

                                          John

                                          Durban

                                          Mary

                                          Johannesburg

                                          Frank

                                          Cape Town

                                          Anna

                                          CapeTown

                                          Fred

                                          Cape Town

                                          Joe

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                                          Xapp
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                                          SELECT * FROM t ORDER BY SUBSTRING(REPLACE(Region, ' ', '') FROM 2) DESC, Contact ASC Tricky.

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