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ahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders
No it isn't, and I didn't talk as such either. But it does seem to be the attitude of certain "elite" well-known CP individuals. Hey, I'm not really any better, I make jokes about VB too. So, I'm pointing the finger at myself too, just not the "elite" part... BTW, I didn't one vote you. Here's a 5 to offset it.
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So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
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modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
Account banned.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Hi, I really feel sorry for the fact that you have decided to leave CP for the reasons you explained in (hopefully not) your last post and I want to respond to what you say with the fact that most of us are respecting others here on CP regardless of the programming language they use or whatever and don't behave as if they are superior towards the other members. Everyone who has historical knowledge of programming knows that countless people started with programming in BASIC and countless programmers are still programming today in some predecessor of this language so there is nothing wrong with that since it's doing the job! I hope you reconsider your decision based on the fact that you did a great Job as Mentor on CP and your advice and help will be missed by many people.:thumbsup:
With friendly greetings, Eric Goedhart
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I also saw Leckie as a redhead... Again, I don't know why.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997What ever happened to Leckie?
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection,
If that's how little you understand the language, no wonder you hate programming in it.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
If that's how little you understand the language, no wonder you hate programming in it.
I was thinking the same thing.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
This is a shame. If anything, those who have ridiculed you (and in so doing violated the rules here) should be either warned or kicked out. I hope you reconsider. I'm strictly a "recreational coder" and VB.Net is the only .Net language I know. I've seen some ridicule of the language itself at CP although I don't recall seeing anyone being slammed for using it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
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What version of VB are you using / referring too?
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When you're dis'n VB, it doesn't matter, but the 0-index thing is obviosuly not in reference to the .Net version... At this point in the game, I really shouldn't have to resort to establishing street cred where knowledge of VB is concerned. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 1:06 PM
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I think I would have recognized it when I saw it
I have great faith in my perceptiveness, too. I am always shocked when I discover I am wrong. . .so often :sigh:
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
I used to think I was always right, but one day I thought I'd made a mistake, and then later found out I was wrong. I knew I married Miss Right - I just didn't know I'd married Miss *Always* Right...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection,
If that's how little you understand the language, no wonder you hate programming in it.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
For the record, I didn't 1-vote you or Alan...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Account banned.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Will we now see "fat___boy"?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I'm a little ticked off with you, especially if you are serious about this decision. I think you are having a bad time right now in your life maybe and the crap that goes on at this site has pushed you over the edge a bit. Completely understandable. Take a little time off like CG did. I want you to know that a programmer friend of mind sits about 10 feet away from me and codes straight VB/VB.Net/VBA and he makes about 70-75K a year...not bad in my book. The retards that tease other people about VB constantly are just that, retards and they probably live from paycheck to paycheck. --My thoughts about you leaving.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I'm sorry to see you go Elaine, but I understand your reasons. Best of luck :rose:.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I'm sorry to hear you are going, you have contributed so much here. I am sorry if any comments I made about VB have effected you, truly they were written in jest. I hope this hasn't been taken as beyond the normal inter-nicene language ribbing. I didn't see the more personal attacks, but am saddened to find out this has happened. I hope you come back at some point, but in any case, all the best.
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fat__boy wrote:
Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted.
My guess is you are going for three.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
My guess is you are going for three.
or 4 or 5 or 6 or ....
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Trollslayer wrote:
Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic.
I thought it was just friendly teasing... I used to program in VB... And my hair used to be blond! (Darkened in my teens).
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I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level.
That's not an insult... That's an opportunity! It's like the perfect setup for a punchline, when you make them eat their words later. Anyway... If you really want to skip town, that's your choice. Suddenly this is reminding me of the farewell message I wrote to my Warcraft guild after five years... I don't regret leaving WoW, but I do miss hanging out with them sometimes. So, good travels to ya... We'll probably still be here if you decide to come back.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
I don't regret leaving WoW, but I do miss hanging out with them sometimes
a big fat AMEN to that one. That game ate up my life for 5 years before I came to my senses and realized it as no longer a game but a job that I paid to play( I was a hardcore raider). But like you said, I do miss hanging out and chatting with my friends from China, Columbia, Canada, all over the states, UK and the list goes on of people/nationalities we had in our large guild(I was one of the original officers so knew everybody.)
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.
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fat__boy wrote:
Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted.
My guess is you are going for three.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
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This is a shame. If anything, those who have ridiculed you (and in so doing violated the rules here) should be either warned or kicked out. I hope you reconsider. I'm strictly a "recreational coder" and VB.Net is the only .Net language I know. I've seen some ridicule of the language itself at CP although I don't recall seeing anyone being slammed for using it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
I'm strictly a "recreational coder" and VB.Net is the only .Net language I know.
VB is well suited for recreational programming. :-D
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Let me start by saying I hope you reconsider. You may not want to hear that from me after our exchange yesterday regarding blonde jokes. It was insensitive of me to carry on like that with you. While I still believe in my point of view, it is obvious to me that you are sensitive when it comes to that subject. If I were conversing with you in person, I'm certain I would not have pressed the matter. However, one of the great things about Code Project is that we can push beyond those artificial boundaries in society and really get into the meat of an issue. I'm sorry if my pushiness is one of the reasons you are leaving. But that is your choice, so do what you must. If the others are right and you are experiencing some personal issues (I am not aware of any specifics) you are working through, I hope you will just take a break from Code Project rather than leave for good. Maybe it would help if you remember not only the bad times, but the good times as well (times it sounds like you've had with Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff, ...). By the way, I code primarily in VB.NET and the CEO/President of the company I work for (5,000+ employees and locations around the world, the leader in the industry) is a blonde woman. Just thought I'd throw that out there. If this really is your last post, I wish you well, but I wish you'd reconsider even more. :rose:
Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.
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Account banned.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
why is he continually being banned?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun