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For the record, I didn't 1-vote you or Alan...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Nope, I never thought you did.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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I don't remember the keyword, but I believe that you can tell VB, since at least VB6, what is the first index in an array.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
I don't remember the keyword, but I believe that you can tell VB, since at least VB6, what is the first index in an array.
Well before that. Temps(32,212) was around since before there was VB
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
JimmyRopes wrote:
VB is well suited for recreational programming.
It works 4 me. I've written several apps for my own use in VB and they do quite well. Even got decent votes on a couple of articles.
Then stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
In truth, I'm one of a comparative handful of "victims" of a weird bug that keeps me from using VS to create new C# projects. I always get an "Access Denied" error.
Access denied has nothing to do with the development environment or language you are using for coding. It is a matter of, err, access permissions.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
I've scoured the Internet for solutions (one purported "solution" nearly wrecked my computer).
The Internet is truly democratic. On the internet opinions are like @ss holes, everyone has one. Use any solution you get from the Internet at your on peril.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS says they consider the problem resolved because they can't duplicate the error. In other words, they're clueless.
Not being able to duplicate the problem has more to do with how much information you gave about the circumstances leading to the problem than not being able to reproduce the problem.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
I recently downloaded SharpDevelop and it creates new C# projects without any problem.
Then stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
So when time allows I might play with C# and see what all the fuss is about.
Why bother if VB suits you needs as a recreational coder?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
I must admit though, that I dislike all those curly braces and semicolons. I get enuff of that with Javascript.
Curse those languages that use "C" like syntax. Why did a lot of professional development languages like C#, JavaScript, PHP, C++, Objective C, Pascal, etc., use "C" like syntax instead of using VB syntax which is well suited to recreational coding. :confused:
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Access denied has nothing to do with the development environment or language you are using for coding. It is a matter of, err, access permissions.
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine. It's only C#, and VS recognizes me as Administrator.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Not being able to duplicate the problem has more to do with how much information you gave about the circumstances leading to the problem than not being able to reproduce the problem.
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Curse those languages that use "C" like syntax. Why did a lot of professional development languages like C#, JavaScript, PHP, C++, Objective C, Pascal, etc., use "C" like syntax instead of using VB syntax which is well suited to recreational coding.
You forgot Actionscript. :)
JimmyRopes wrote:
Why bother if VB suits you needs as a recreational coder?
Because I do occasionally enjoy learning something new. At present I'm neck-deep in PHP and like it better and better.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
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When you're dis'n VB, it doesn't matter, but the 0-index thing is obviosuly not in reference to the .Net version... At this point in the game, I really shouldn't have to resort to establishing street cred where knowledge of VB is concerned. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 1:06 PM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I really shouldn't have to resort to establishing street cred where knowledge of VB is concerned
I hear you still add dollar signs to your string variables. :laugh:
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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I'm a little ticked off with you, especially if you are serious about this decision. I think you are having a bad time right now in your life maybe and the crap that goes on at this site has pushed you over the edge a bit. Completely understandable. Take a little time off like CG did. I want you to know that a programmer friend of mind sits about 10 feet away from me and codes straight VB/VB.Net/VBA and he makes about 70-75K a year...not bad in my book. The retards that tease other people about VB constantly are just that, retards and they probably live from paycheck to paycheck. --My thoughts about you leaving.
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The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
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For continually breaching the Terms of Use. Specifically, trolling. Generally, abusing the goodwill of the site and the community. I've spent months asking nicely, moving posts to appropriate places, reasoning and finally simply deleting inappropriate material in the hope the hint would take, all to no avail. I simply do not have the time. There are 14M developers a year who come through the site. I need to focus on them, and I need to focus on what we do for them, and not spend so much time on someone who has no respect or courtesy towards us.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
So, there was truly a reason why Elaine used the Trollslayer nick :-D Gone with style, with one last post to slay a troll...she was not getting out alone :-D
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford "When I waste my time, I only use the best, Code Project...don't leave home without it." — Slacker007
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Account banned.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Thank you, Chris.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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For continually breaching the Terms of Use. Specifically, trolling. Generally, abusing the goodwill of the site and the community. I've spent months asking nicely, moving posts to appropriate places, reasoning and finally simply deleting inappropriate material in the hope the hint would take, all to no avail. I simply do not have the time. There are 14M developers a year who come through the site. I need to focus on them, and I need to focus on what we do for them, and not spend so much time on someone who has no respect or courtesy towards us.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I guess I must've missed all the hoopla, but good call then.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
What ever happened to Leckie?
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI don't know. She was having health issues if I recall...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
why is he continually being banned?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunBecause he is continually being an ass hat.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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I'm a little ticked off with you, especially if you are serious about this decision. I think you are having a bad time right now in your life maybe and the crap that goes on at this site has pushed you over the edge a bit. Completely understandable. Take a little time off like CG did. I want you to know that a programmer friend of mind sits about 10 feet away from me and codes straight VB/VB.Net/VBA and he makes about 70-75K a year...not bad in my book. The retards that tease other people about VB constantly are just that, retards and they probably live from paycheck to paycheck. --My thoughts about you leaving.
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Slacker007 wrote:
The retards that tease other people about VB constantly are just that, retards
hey Hey HEY! Only some of them are. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Slacker007 wrote:
The retards that tease other people about VB constantly are just that, retards
hey Hey HEY! Only some of them are. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Only some. :rolleyes:
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Let me start by saying I hope you reconsider. You may not want to hear that from me after our exchange yesterday regarding blonde jokes. It was insensitive of me to carry on like that with you. While I still believe in my point of view, it is obvious to me that you are sensitive when it comes to that subject. If I were conversing with you in person, I'm certain I would not have pressed the matter. However, one of the great things about Code Project is that we can push beyond those artificial boundaries in society and really get into the meat of an issue. I'm sorry if my pushiness is one of the reasons you are leaving. But that is your choice, so do what you must. If the others are right and you are experiencing some personal issues (I am not aware of any specifics) you are working through, I hope you will just take a break from Code Project rather than leave for good. Maybe it would help if you remember not only the bad times, but the good times as well (times it sounds like you've had with Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff, ...). By the way, I code primarily in VB.NET and the CEO/President of the company I work for (5,000+ employees and locations around the world, the leader in the industry) is a blonde woman. Just thought I'd throw that out there. If this really is your last post, I wish you well, but I wish you'd reconsider even more. :rose:
Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.
Well said, the OP of the orginal thread should of added to this as well.
www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Considering you probably the most active gals around CP, give this place a break and come back when things are better in your life. Don't cash in all those valuable rep points and posts are at least donate them to me ;)
www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Please don't go!! This will be a poorer place without your special brand of wit and wisdom. Take some time to get yourself in a better place and come roaring back to greet us again. :rose::rose::rose::rose::rose::rose::rose:
Phil
The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
and if there's one thing that devs like, it's reusable themes
I re-use toilet paper...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I re-use toilet paper...
Please don't tell me that the stringy stuff in the quiche you sent me was... ... Oh God...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Access denied has nothing to do with the development environment or language you are using for coding. It is a matter of, err, access permissions.
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine. It's only C#, and VS recognizes me as Administrator.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Not being able to duplicate the problem has more to do with how much information you gave about the circumstances leading to the problem than not being able to reproduce the problem.
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Curse those languages that use "C" like syntax. Why did a lot of professional development languages like C#, JavaScript, PHP, C++, Objective C, Pascal, etc., use "C" like syntax instead of using VB syntax which is well suited to recreational coding.
You forgot Actionscript. :)
JimmyRopes wrote:
Why bother if VB suits you needs as a recreational coder?
Because I do occasionally enjoy learning something new. At present I'm neck-deep in PHP and like it better and better.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine.
I keep telling you to stick with VB if it works for you. I really don't care to diagnose your problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
It's only C#
If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
VS recognizes me as Administrator.
Very impressive.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
Oh, you didn't say it was the well known C# flaw that causes access denied errors. :rolleyes: No wonder why some people only use VB. :doh:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Elaine, I would urge you to return, but if your decision is final, I'll miss you. Any chance we can keep in touch using email? The Email link in my post is enabled.
Cheers, विक्रम (CCC count - 6.) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine.
I keep telling you to stick with VB if it works for you. I really don't care to diagnose your problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
It's only C#
If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
VS recognizes me as Administrator.
Very impressive.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
Oh, you didn't say it was the well known C# flaw that causes access denied errors. :rolleyes: No wonder why some people only use VB. :doh:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
I really don't care to diagnose your problems.
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension. I don't recall asking you to diagnose anything. It's been my experience here and in other forums that the best way to terminate a conversation is to cease conversing. If you did not wish to continue the thread, all you needed to do was stop responding. Then again tact, civility and restraint all require a certain amount of maturity. Feel free to respond if you feel the need to have the last word. I'm sure someone will read it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?