Adieu
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Considering you probably the most active gals around CP, give this place a break and come back when things are better in your life. Don't cash in all those valuable rep points and posts are at least donate them to me ;)
www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Please don't go!! This will be a poorer place without your special brand of wit and wisdom. Take some time to get yourself in a better place and come roaring back to greet us again. :rose::rose::rose::rose::rose::rose::rose:
Phil
The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
and if there's one thing that devs like, it's reusable themes
I re-use toilet paper...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I re-use toilet paper...
Please don't tell me that the stringy stuff in the quiche you sent me was... ... Oh God...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Access denied has nothing to do with the development environment or language you are using for coding. It is a matter of, err, access permissions.
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine. It's only C#, and VS recognizes me as Administrator.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Not being able to duplicate the problem has more to do with how much information you gave about the circumstances leading to the problem than not being able to reproduce the problem.
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
JimmyRopes wrote:
Curse those languages that use "C" like syntax. Why did a lot of professional development languages like C#, JavaScript, PHP, C++, Objective C, Pascal, etc., use "C" like syntax instead of using VB syntax which is well suited to recreational coding.
You forgot Actionscript. :)
JimmyRopes wrote:
Why bother if VB suits you needs as a recreational coder?
Because I do occasionally enjoy learning something new. At present I'm neck-deep in PHP and like it better and better.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine.
I keep telling you to stick with VB if it works for you. I really don't care to diagnose your problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
It's only C#
If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
VS recognizes me as Administrator.
Very impressive.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
Oh, you didn't say it was the well known C# flaw that causes access denied errors. :rolleyes: No wonder why some people only use VB. :doh:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Elaine, I would urge you to return, but if your decision is final, I'll miss you. Any chance we can keep in touch using email? The Email link in my post is enabled.
Cheers, विक्रम (CCC count - 6.) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine.
I keep telling you to stick with VB if it works for you. I really don't care to diagnose your problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
It's only C#
If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
VS recognizes me as Administrator.
Very impressive.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
Oh, you didn't say it was the well known C# flaw that causes access denied errors. :rolleyes: No wonder why some people only use VB. :doh:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
I really don't care to diagnose your problems.
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension. I don't recall asking you to diagnose anything. It's been my experience here and in other forums that the best way to terminate a conversation is to cease conversing. If you did not wish to continue the thread, all you needed to do was stop responding. Then again tact, civility and restraint all require a certain amount of maturity. Feel free to respond if you feel the need to have the last word. I'm sure someone will read it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
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JimmyRopes wrote:
I really don't care to diagnose your problems.
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension. I don't recall asking you to diagnose anything. It's been my experience here and in other forums that the best way to terminate a conversation is to cease conversing. If you did not wish to continue the thread, all you needed to do was stop responding. Then again tact, civility and restraint all require a certain amount of maturity. Feel free to respond if you feel the need to have the last word. I'm sure someone will read it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension.
No just stating a fact. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I solve other peoples coding problems at work and I don't want to get involved with your C# problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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When you're dis'n VB, it doesn't matter, but the 0-index thing is obviosuly not in reference to the .Net version... At this point in the game, I really shouldn't have to resort to establishing street cred where knowledge of VB is concerned. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 1:06 PM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I really shouldn't have to resort to establishing street cred where knowledge of VB is concerned.
No John, we all realize that you are an experienced VB programmer. Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. :-D I did earn a living coding VB6 back in the late 1990's, but I don't usually admit that in public. :-O
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
If that were true, then shouldn't I be getting similar errors with VB and ASP.Net? They work fine.
I keep telling you to stick with VB if it works for you. I really don't care to diagnose your problems. If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
It's only C#
If VB works for you stick with it.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
VS recognizes me as Administrator.
Very impressive.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
MS has received tons of info, from me and a number of others.
Oh, you didn't say it was the well known C# flaw that causes access denied errors. :rolleyes: No wonder why some people only use VB. :doh:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
No wonder why some people only use VB
Geeze, Jimmy, what put a hair across your ass? He never asked for advice or help or anything from you. As for VB, some of the best and some of the worst programmers I have ever met worked in VB - and some of each in C. Now that C# is around, I'd venture to guess that per capita, there are as many shitty C# programmers as there are VB-ers. Of course my opinion is worth every penny you paid for it. ;)
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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JimmyRopes wrote:
No wonder why some people only use VB
Geeze, Jimmy, what put a hair across your ass? He never asked for advice or help or anything from you. As for VB, some of the best and some of the worst programmers I have ever met worked in VB - and some of each in C. Now that C# is around, I'd venture to guess that per capita, there are as many shitty C# programmers as there are VB-ers. Of course my opinion is worth every penny you paid for it. ;)
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
Geeze, Jimmy, what put a hair across your ass? He never asked for advice or help or anything from you.
I am a bit dubious about his claim that using C# causes an access problem that miraculously is cleared up by using VB.
Oakman wrote:
As for VB, some of the best and some of the worst programmers I have ever met worked in VB ... I'd venture to guess that per capita, there are as many sh***y C# programmers as there are VB-ers.
VB reminds me of COBOL. It allows people to program before they know how to program. That is not saying that there are not some very good VB programmers. It is just saying that there are a lot of people who think they can program because they can code in VB.
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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Let me start by saying I hope you reconsider. You may not want to hear that from me after our exchange yesterday regarding blonde jokes. It was insensitive of me to carry on like that with you. While I still believe in my point of view, it is obvious to me that you are sensitive when it comes to that subject. If I were conversing with you in person, I'm certain I would not have pressed the matter. However, one of the great things about Code Project is that we can push beyond those artificial boundaries in society and really get into the meat of an issue. I'm sorry if my pushiness is one of the reasons you are leaving. But that is your choice, so do what you must. If the others are right and you are experiencing some personal issues (I am not aware of any specifics) you are working through, I hope you will just take a break from Code Project rather than leave for good. Maybe it would help if you remember not only the bad times, but the good times as well (times it sounds like you've had with Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff, ...). By the way, I code primarily in VB.NET and the CEO/President of the company I work for (5,000+ employees and locations around the world, the leader in the industry) is a blonde woman. Just thought I'd throw that out there. If this really is your last post, I wish you well, but I wish you'd reconsider even more. :rose:
Help a brotha out and vote Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET as the best ASP.NET article of May 2011.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Oh bugger. Only just found out. Take care Tigger; we'll miss you. :rose: If you need me, you know where I am.
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Trollslayer wrote:
Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic.
I thought it was just friendly teasing... I used to program in VB... And my hair used to be blond! (Darkened in my teens).
Trollslayer wrote:
I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level.
That's not an insult... That's an opportunity! It's like the perfect setup for a punchline, when you make them eat their words later. Anyway... If you really want to skip town, that's your choice. Suddenly this is reminding me of the farewell message I wrote to my Warcraft guild after five years... I don't regret leaving WoW, but I do miss hanging out with them sometimes. So, good travels to ya... We'll probably still be here if you decide to come back.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
And my hair used to be blond
My hair used to be dark back when I was programming in VB. Now while I use C#, I get blonder and blonder for every year... :)
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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JimmyRopes wrote:
I really don't care to diagnose your problems.
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension. I don't recall asking you to diagnose anything. It's been my experience here and in other forums that the best way to terminate a conversation is to cease conversing. If you did not wish to continue the thread, all you needed to do was stop responding. Then again tact, civility and restraint all require a certain amount of maturity. Feel free to respond if you feel the need to have the last word. I'm sure someone will read it.
If Barney Frank eats a fruitcake, is it cannibalism?
Alan Burkhart wrote:
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension.
Sorry for my boorish behavior. I have been under a lot of stress at work and took it out on you. :rose:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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JimmyRopes wrote:
No wonder why some people only use VB
Geeze, Jimmy, what put a hair across your ass? He never asked for advice or help or anything from you. As for VB, some of the best and some of the worst programmers I have ever met worked in VB - and some of each in C. Now that C# is around, I'd venture to guess that per capita, there are as many shitty C# programmers as there are VB-ers. Of course my opinion is worth every penny you paid for it. ;)
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
Geeze, Jimmy, what put a hair across your ass?
You are right Oakman. I have been under a lot of stress at work lately and unloaded on him with both barrels. :-O
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
And now we go from a simple, civil discussion to rudeness and condescension.
Sorry for my boorish behavior. I have been under a lot of stress at work and took it out on you. :rose:
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
Sorry for my boorish behavior.
Happens to the best of us. No hard feelings on my end. :)
XAlan Burkhart