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  • K killabyte

    information that is not meant as entertainment should be free in my books

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Nonsense. Most authors wouldn't write books if they weren't going to get paid.

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      Clifford Nelson wrote:

      I would say Isreal is more dangerous with nuclear weapons than those countries

      What a strange thing to say. Why? (your answer and then mine will probably get this moved to the Soapbox).

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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      Clifford Nelson
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      Who is threatening to attack Iran right now. Who feels most threatened by the arab countries, and the arabs within their own country. Who invaded, so unsuccessfully Lebanon. If Isreal feels like it is up against a wall, and it has always felt threatened, maybe they would use them.

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        Clifford Nelson wrote:

        Either Iran or North Korea, hard for the US Government to do much of anything considering current diplomatic relations with those countries.

        Or China, or Germany, or the US... I'm curious if we'll see a time when some countries issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal for Internet Pirates.

        Clifford Nelson wrote:

        Funny, I would say Isreal is more dangerous with nuclear weapons than those countries, and only the US has actually really used them.

        You mean as a weapon in war, of course. Lots of countries have developed them as a hobby. :) You get in the club and suddenly what you say matters.

        _____________________________ A logician deducts the truth. A detective inducts the truth. A journalist abducts the truth. Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...

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        Clifford Nelson
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        We have certainly proved that. Both Iraq and Libya gave up on nuclear weapon development, and got invaded. The message that many got from this is that you need to have nuclear weapons to keep the US from invading you.

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          The only time I pirate is when the content is unavailable to me (e.g., Dexter can only be bought on DVD months after season finales), but then I pay for the content when it is available. Though, I have never pirated a book. The only thing close to that was that I bought a book from a retail bookstore, then returned it once the one from Amazon arrived (I wanted to read it right away, but Amazon was cheaper). If you don't feel guilty, your moral compass is probably broken.

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          I actually snaffled Neal Asher's book only because I could not buy them (with the possible exception of Amazon spit). Like you I beleive those that can afford to should pay for the content, however I refuse to bust my balls trying to purchase something that a publisher won't sell to me b/c I'm not in the US.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Yes, I was joking or did you miss that bit?

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            I think it was never taken seriously.

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            • K killabyte

              information that is not meant as entertainment should be free in my books

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              What a weird and narrow view on IP. Are you saying that my LOB code should be given away but the game I'm writing should be paid for?

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Who is threatening to attack Iran right now. Who feels most threatened by the arab countries, and the arabs within their own country. Who invaded, so unsuccessfully Lebanon. If Isreal feels like it is up against a wall, and it has always felt threatened, maybe they would use them.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Really? Are they? Where did you see that? Is it imminent? Can I buy tickets?

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  Nonsense. Most authors wouldn't write books if they weren't going to get paid.

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  Primary and secondary education are free, that doesn't mean the teachers don't get paid.

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                    What a weird and narrow view on IP. Are you saying that my LOB code should be given away but the game I'm writing should be paid for?

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    No that is a product you have designed, what i meant was all educational material should be freely available to anyone and everyone.

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                      I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:

                      William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.

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                      Why do you want to know about our downloading habits?

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                      • L Lost User

                        Primary and secondary education are free, that doesn't mean the teachers don't get paid.

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                        It isn't free, you just don't pay the teachers directly (the government is in the middle).

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        • K killabyte

                          information that is not meant as entertainment should be free in my books

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                          No cash no motivation...do you code for free?

                          VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                          • M MehdiNaseri

                            I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:

                            William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.

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                            I'm pleading a Bill Clinton on this one, I did download an illegal book but I didn't read it. :)

                            VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                              It isn't free, you just don't pay the teachers directly (the government is in the middle).

                              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                              So it is free, you don't pay anything extra for using it than you do for not using it. The money you pay the government is the penalty for having the gall to live. How dare you.

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                                No that is a product you have designed, what i meant was all educational material should be freely available to anyone and everyone.

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                                Anthony Mushrow
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                                That's a very blurry line your drawing.

                                -SK Genius

                                Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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                                  So it is free, you don't pay anything extra for using it than you do for not using it. The money you pay the government is the penalty for having the gall to live. How dare you.

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                                  AspDotNetDev
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                                  Exactly. It wouldn't be very fair to people who don't like reading to charge them for it. Eduction (at least in the US) is a bit different... I believe you actually have to go to school up to a certain point (though parents can opt out if they choose to home school their child).

                                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    No cash no motivation...do you code for free?

                                    VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                                    Yes.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      So it is free, you don't pay anything extra for using it than you do for not using it. The money you pay the government is the penalty for having the gall to live. How dare you.

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                                      Anthony Mushrow
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                                      Except that in most places that education is compulsory, so you don't really have the option not to use it.

                                      -SK Genius

                                      Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        I'm pleading a Bill Clinton on this one, I did download an illegal book but I didn't read it. :)

                                        VS2010/AVR Studio 5.0 ToDo Manager Extension

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                                        I read, but I didn't retain. :)

                                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                        • M MehdiNaseri

                                          I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:

                                          William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Huh. That's something I haven't done yet.

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