I am a pirate.
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No cash no motivation...do you code for free?
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So it is free, you don't pay anything extra for using it than you do for not using it. The money you pay the government is the penalty for having the gall to live. How dare you.
Except that in most places that education is compulsory, so you don't really have the option not to use it.
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I'm pleading a Bill Clinton on this one, I did download an illegal book but I didn't read it. :)
I read, but I didn't retain. :)
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
Huh. That's something I haven't done yet.
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Exactly. It wouldn't be very fair to people who don't like reading to charge them for it. Eduction (at least in the US) is a bit different... I believe you actually have to go to school up to a certain point (though parents can opt out if they choose to home school their child).
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When reviewing resumes, I often think MS Certification is bordeline entertainment. So even by your logic I don't understand, this case is still wrong.
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I read, but I didn't retain. :)
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We have certainly proved that. Both Iraq and Libya gave up on nuclear weapon development, and got invaded. The message that many got from this is that you need to have nuclear weapons to keep the US from invading you.
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We have certainly proved that. Both Iraq and Libya gave up on nuclear weapon development, and got invaded. The message that many got from this is that you need to have nuclear weapons to keep the US from invading you.
The US invasion of Libya was when? On the other hand: http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=4884[^] All those people had a nuclear program and now don't. But where's the laundry list of invasions to go with that if your point was valid? It would have taken you six seconds to confirm what you were posting before posting it. Why didn't you? Do you have so little respect for those who you might want to convince? Or are you trolling? Rhetorical questions. Don't bother to answer.
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I'm pleading a Bill Clinton on this one, I did download an illegal book but I didn't read it. :)
Oh yeah?? Then explain that "stain"!
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Oh yeah?? Then explain that "stain"!
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Dave KreskowiakDave Kreskowiak wrote:
Oh yeah?? Then explain that "stain"!
I don't know what you're talking about I did not have sex with that woman.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
Oh yeah?? Then explain that "stain"!
I don't know what you're talking about I did not have sex with that woman.
Neither did I. Did she tell you I did? She's just blowing... hot air.
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
We have certainly proved that. Both Iraq and Libya gave up on nuclear weapon development, and got invaded. The message that many got from this is that you need to have nuclear weapons to keep the US from invading you.
The US invasion of Libya was when? On the other hand: http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=4884[^] All those people had a nuclear program and now don't. But where's the laundry list of invasions to go with that if your point was valid? It would have taken you six seconds to confirm what you were posting before posting it. Why didn't you? Do you have so little respect for those who you might want to convince? Or are you trolling? Rhetorical questions. Don't bother to answer.
_____________________________ A logician deducts the truth. A detective inducts the truth. A journalist abducts the truth. Give a man a mug, he drinks for a day. Teach a man to mug...
Ok we only invaded with planes. But still US military entered Libya and bombed (attacked). At one time that would have been considered war. I also have heard that there are now significant troop on the ground in Iraq, but they may just be the same rumor. I am not the one that actually came up with this notion, someone else did, and I thought they had a good point from a logic pov: have nuclear weapons and the US will not attack you.
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
when I was a kid, I pirated almost all my games. Maturity comes with age, but so does income.
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No that is a product you have designed, what i meant was all educational material should be freely available to anyone and everyone.
That's a very odd line of reasoning. Do you think a textbook requires no design? No effort to write, let alone the years of study and practice required to become proficient enough to write it? There is one kind of IP I willingly steal - government documents. As a taxpayer, I paid for their development, and unless they are classified, they're public domain by law. For instance, the amount of knowledge and research contained in DOD and MIL standards and specifications could not be surpassed by any small to medium size company, and I can see no justification for any private venture to spend a dime duplicating such documents. There's a treasure trove of free information there for the taking, and it's not illegal. Various other government departments publish standards, too. When my boss wanted to have a standard for constructing high voltage transmission lines, I found a RUS standard that not only included specifications for such things as height above water and pole strength, but also included a step-by-step procedure - with equations for calculating load resistance - for designing the structures to support the line. Another good source is local government publications. When I needed a standard for designing sewer pipe installations, I found that the Maricopa Association of Governments had already published - free for the taking - a set of specifications for sewer installation, along with a book of detailed design drawings for anyone to use! We adopted them immediately, as have many hundreds of utilities in the US, simply because they are so well done, and represent thousands of engineering hours of work that we can't afford to reproduce. I've spent 40 years becoming an expert at what I do. I've poured my heart and soul into becoming the best engineer that I can be, and from what I've been told, I'm pretty damned good at it. Maybe someday I'll write a textbook, or possibly just a white paper or two. But if you think you're entitled to the fruits of my intellectual labors over a lifetime for free, I'm inclined to elect to go to my grave with my knowledge kept to myself. You and your offspring can damned well spend your lives sitting around your rent-controlled, homeowner-association-monitored caves wondering if rocks are edible, and what color this wheel thingy ought to be. I'm not singling you out, kid - you just struck a nerve. There's a whole generation out there that has never done a day's honest work, and thinks that anything they want should be free, that the efforts of others are for their free use
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
I don't know why you were downvoted, but I gave you a 5 to compensate a bit. You ask a legitimate question, and one that should concern this community. I've used pirated software - not often, but a few times. These were items that didn't offer a free trial. If I liked them, I re-downloaded them and paid for them. If I didn't, I uninstalled them after a brief trial. Much like the process of hiring a new employee, adopting a new bit of software should include an interview period during which both parties have the opportunity to determine if the candidate is a good fit for the needs of the organization. I feel no guilt over that sort of act. I've also downloaded pirated documents, and I've followed the same rule. If they were unusable, I deleted them. If they were useful, I paid for them. Sometimes I've purchased books that looked good in the ads, but were garbage when I received them and could view the full contents. A few of those I kept, just because I couldn't be bothered with returning them, but most I returned for a refund. What you've done is wrong. Period. Whether you ascribe to the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, or to simple economic sense, stealing another person's work is wrong. There is no moral principle which supports theft as a means of existence, unless you consider a welfare state to be a desirable thing. That, in itself, is so self defeating and counter-survival that it's not worth discussing. You should feel guilty. You've done a bad thing, though quite possibly for good reasons. Morality is a fuzzy subject, not something that lawyers and governments are well-equipped to deal with. But there is no doubt that your action is wrong. You probably have good reasons for acting as you did, but it's still wrong. You should feel terrible about stealing the work of others. By the way, do you have a link to those downloads? I'd like to find out if they're worth paying for. :-D
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I have planned to take Visual Studio 2010 Certification exams this year and my main sources are these three books: - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-511): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Windows Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-515): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Web Applications Development - MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-516): Microsoft .NET Framework 4—Accessing Data with ADO.NET The problem is that I have downloaded these books illegally for free and worse than that I don’t feel guilty at all.:confused: How about you? Have you ever downloaded programming books illegally? Did you feel guilty after that? :confused:
William Shakespeare Three sentences for getting SUCCESS: a) Know more than other. b) Work more than other. c) Expect less than other.
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Ok we only invaded with planes. But still US military entered Libya and bombed (attacked). At one time that would have been considered war. I also have heard that there are now significant troop on the ground in Iraq, but they may just be the same rumor. I am not the one that actually came up with this notion, someone else did, and I thought they had a good point from a logic pov: have nuclear weapons and the US will not attack you.
Several points: First: The most important thing you can know about a fact is who gave it to you. There are so many reasons for this that there just isn't room here. So whoever suggested that to you- you should reconsider some of the other things they've given you. Second: Just because something seems logical doesn't make it true. The best use of logic includes truthing it against the real world. Otherwise its just an intellectual exercise and no more. Okay someone suggests that it makes sense that having an A-Bomb will make the US not go after you. Sounds good on paper. But the US isn't in the habit of running around and invading places. If they wanted to get rid of someone who has no nukes they would have gone in big against Castro in Cuba (and they only went in small) and they'd settle Hugo Chavez' hash since he doesn't exactly fit their ideal of a leader of Venezuela. And if the first were true it wouldn't mean that the converse is also true. If the US steers clear of countries that have nuclear programs then it doesn't necessarily mean that they go headlong at countries that have given up nuclear programs or countries that don't have nuclear programs. I gave you a list of countries that have had nuclear programs and no longer have such. And very few of them have suffered an invasion. So whatever you were told as an idea, you might as well take it out in the light and decide whether you want to keep it or not. Third: Invasion is not the same as attacked. If it were then the US has invaded lots of countries and lots of other countries have invaded the US. Every time the US gets attacked at an embassy it would be 'an invasion'. But the two are very different things. The wikipedia article on invasion should give you a good read on what is what. Fourth: War is not the same as invasion or attacked. The precise use of these terms means a very specific thing to everyone involved- and using them interchangeably means that you won't get your point across; valid or not. No one will listen. The best you will get is a shouting match or silence as everyone ignores you. Fifth: there are no significant US troops on the ground in Libya. You must mean Libya even though you say "Iraq" because of everything else you've said. In Iraq I believe there are still around 13,000. The US is leaving Iraq so this is a lot less than there was. This depends on what you mean by significant. Are there any US troops on the ground in Libya? Probably special forces and the like. All I
