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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Surely that entitles you to a company-paid subscription to Lynda.com and various other video learning resources, since you can't access the free resource that is YouTube, correct? :-D

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    • M Mycroft Holmes

      I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      AspDotNetDev
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      :laugh: It's nothing you would have worked on in the past (assuming I'm remembering your "interesting" past correctly). It's a professional learning site. Their main thing is high quality videos that teach you various software products (e.g., all the Adobe stuff, such as Photoshop). They also have files to download (like Code Project) and transcripts (in case you want to search for text that was spoken in the video). If I had more time, I'd be on there constantly.

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      • D devvvy

        Internal Law - wtf? your majesty royal arseness you would like your *underling* to serve you like a King don't you. I treat even my domestic helper with respect and I don't write little red book what's permitted and what's not. where the hell do you come from man?

        dev

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        PaulowniaK
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        Getting up on the wrong side of the bed? You need to chill, man! ;P Either that or you have a very high spec for your sense of humour that it all flew over our heads... Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules. I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.

        Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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        • P PaulowniaK

          Getting up on the wrong side of the bed? You need to chill, man! ;P Either that or you have a very high spec for your sense of humour that it all flew over our heads... Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules. I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.

          Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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          devvvy
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          PaulowniaK wrote:

          Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules.
          I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.

          it'd be fair to layout generally accepted demands such as work days vs paid leaves or normal working hours (which is not observed anyway) but "Internal Laws" does sounds "House Rules" along the lines "One shall not leave office sooner than your commanding officer."

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            PaulowniaK wrote:

            Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules.
            I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.

            it'd be fair to layout generally accepted demands such as work days vs paid leaves or normal working hours (which is not observed anyway) but "Internal Laws" does sounds "House Rules" along the lines "One shall not leave office sooner than your commanding officer."

            dev

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            PaulowniaK
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            While I do get where you're coming from, I'll put this down, just in case...

            Chris wrote:

            7. Not everyone's first language is English. Be understanding.

            Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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            • P PaulowniaK

              While I do get where you're coming from, I'll put this down, just in case...

              Chris wrote:

              7. Not everyone's first language is English. Be understanding.

              Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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              devvvy
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              PaulowniaK wrote:

              7. Not everyone's first language is English. Be understanding.

              fair enuf cheers

              dev

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              • H Huzifa Terkawi

                if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

                huzifa

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                BobJanova
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                You want to be as flexible as you can – the best developers are creative people and will be stifled by aggressive monitoring or timekeeping rules. At my company we have a guideline number of hours we should do each day, and moderately flexible times (as long as you are around 10-4, you can extend your day at either end); we don't have strict Internet usage rules and although we currently have a rule against listening to music, it's not enforced as long as you have headphones on.

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                  Dont restrict listening to music while working

                  Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Keith Barrow
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                  Mine is. To complete the double-whammy they are also want to pipe Radio n int the office, where n < 3. The worst outcome would be Radio 1 being piped, and frankly don't Radio 2 either, not if I'm forced to sit and listen to it for 8 hours a day.

                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                  • S SockPuppeteer

                    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's ASPx

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                    Maximilien
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                    SockPuppeteer wrote:

                    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Wifi

                    Nihil obstat

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                      HR managers

                      Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                      a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA

                      Tell us how you really feel... :laugh:

                      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                        a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA

                        Tell us how you really feel... :laugh:

                        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                        charlieg
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                        He didn't. He just kept it kid safe. However, to be fair, I have once been a manager, and HR people can come in handy from time to time.

                        Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          Now that I think about it, I think I was thinking about Marc Clifton in my previous message. Or maybe not. I don't know. :doh:

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Now that I think about it, I think I was thinking about Marc Clifton in my previous message. Or maybe not. I don't know. :doh:

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            I imagine Marc knows all about that site!

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            • M Mycroft Holmes

                              PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                              HR managers

                              Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              CHill60
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                              Oh NOW I wish voting was on ... 5, 5, 5 :)

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                              • B BobJanova

                                You want to be as flexible as you can – the best developers are creative people and will be stifled by aggressive monitoring or timekeeping rules. At my company we have a guideline number of hours we should do each day, and moderately flexible times (as long as you are around 10-4, you can extend your day at either end); we don't have strict Internet usage rules and although we currently have a rule against listening to music, it's not enforced as long as you have headphones on.

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                                Rosenne
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                                We have similar rules, plus: no overtime (on a weekly basis) except in special cases.

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                                • H Huzifa Terkawi

                                  if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

                                  huzifa

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                                  Roger165
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                                  1. Freedom 2. Fast computers with many monitors 3. White Boards - Wireless 4. Coffee, water, etc. 5. Nice bathrooms 6. Nerf toys Optional A. Fridge dedicated to Beer

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                                    Dont restrict listening to music while working

                                    Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    The manufacturing job I worked at between when I graduated and got a programming job banned music about a week and a half before I left because production rates had dropped (the fact that they'd just sacked about 70-80% of the midnight shift and replaced them with newbies obviously wasn't a factor :rolleyes: ) and told us we'd be allowed to have our CD players back when the numbers improved. My comment (to coworkers, not the pointy hairs) was the standard 'the beatings will continue until morale improves'. I'm not sure what eventually happened since we were even farther from the (virtually impossible to meet) nominal quotas my last full week there. :doh:

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    • M Maximilien

                                      SockPuppeteer wrote:

                                      Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Wifi

                                      Nihil obstat

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                                      Lost User
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                                      “Thou shall not make database calls in vain, for the database server will not hold him guiltless who makes calls to it in vain.

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                                      • S SockPuppeteer

                                        Hey! come on! Be fair. Oh, wait a minute - you are being fair.

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                                        The truth cannot be pejorative.

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                                        • P PraneethNSubasekara

                                          Well in my experiance, programmers have a pretty stressful life. Its is essenstial to give them adequet freedom in their workplace (not too much). Most sufable content should be monitored this is done with interest on the employees behalf and the companies behalf. The employee, because restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do. The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks. When it comes to worklife balance, flexi work hours should be naturally considered as this is a key aspect many employees look for in a software company. It would help them gain the work life balance they need. (Dont restrict listening to music while working) most programmers work better while blasting some tunes in their ears :) !!!!

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                                          IndifferentDisdain
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                                          I have to say, I disagree with the controls listed here. I just finished my MBA and work for a company with unfettered access to internet, social media, etc. Productivity is fine. Especially with smartphones, people will access facebook, twitter, etc. if they want. Unfortunately, access is slower on a smartphone, so it takes even longer to waste time. The theory is that, if you treat the employees as adults, they'll tend to act like adults. Some basic monitoring is okay, then address any outliers as needed. The only thing I would consider restricting would be obvious pornographic/gambling sites (just for your network's sake) and streaming media sites like Pandora, but only if you have a bandwidth concern. Judge the employees based on their productivity, not necessarily how they achieve productivity.

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