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Internal Law - wtf? your majesty royal arseness you would like your *underling* to serve you like a King don't you. I treat even my domestic helper with respect and I don't write little red book what's permitted and what's not. where the hell do you come from man?
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Getting up on the wrong side of the bed? You need to chill, man! ;P Either that or you have a very high spec for your sense of humour that it all flew over our heads... Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules. I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
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Getting up on the wrong side of the bed? You need to chill, man! ;P Either that or you have a very high spec for your sense of humour that it all flew over our heads... Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules. I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
PaulowniaK wrote:
Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules.
I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.it'd be fair to layout generally accepted demands such as work days vs paid leaves or normal working hours (which is not observed anyway) but "Internal Laws" does sounds "House Rules" along the lines "One shall not leave office sooner than your commanding officer."
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PaulowniaK wrote:
Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules.
I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.it'd be fair to layout generally accepted demands such as work days vs paid leaves or normal working hours (which is not observed anyway) but "Internal Laws" does sounds "House Rules" along the lines "One shall not leave office sooner than your commanding officer."
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While I do get where you're coming from, I'll put this down, just in case...
Chris wrote:
7. Not everyone's first language is English. Be understanding.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
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While I do get where you're coming from, I'll put this down, just in case...
Chris wrote:
7. Not everyone's first language is English. Be understanding.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
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if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks
huzifa
You want to be as flexible as you can – the best developers are creative people and will be stifled by aggressive monitoring or timekeeping rules. At my company we have a guideline number of hours we should do each day, and moderately flexible times (as long as you are around 10-4, you can extend your day at either end); we don't have strict Internet usage rules and although we currently have a rule against listening to music, it's not enforced as long as you have headphones on.
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PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
Dont restrict listening to music while working
Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mine is. To complete the double-whammy they are also want to pipe Radio n int the office, where n < 3. The worst outcome would be Radio 1 being piped, and frankly don't Radio 2 either, not if I'm forced to sit and listen to it for 8 hours a day.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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SockPuppeteer wrote:
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Wifi
Nihil obstat
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PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
HR managers
Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA
Tell us how you really feel... :laugh:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA
Tell us how you really feel... :laugh:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
He didn't. He just kept it kid safe. However, to be fair, I have once been a manager, and HR people can come in handy from time to time.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Now that I think about it, I think I was thinking about Marc Clifton in my previous message. Or maybe not. I don't know. :doh:
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Now that I think about it, I think I was thinking about Marc Clifton in my previous message. Or maybe not. I don't know. :doh:
I imagine Marc knows all about that site!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
HR managers
Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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You want to be as flexible as you can – the best developers are creative people and will be stifled by aggressive monitoring or timekeeping rules. At my company we have a guideline number of hours we should do each day, and moderately flexible times (as long as you are around 10-4, you can extend your day at either end); we don't have strict Internet usage rules and although we currently have a rule against listening to music, it's not enforced as long as you have headphones on.
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if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks
huzifa
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PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
Dont restrict listening to music while working
Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
The manufacturing job I worked at between when I graduated and got a programming job banned music about a week and a half before I left because production rates had dropped (the fact that they'd just sacked about 70-80% of the midnight shift and replaced them with newbies obviously wasn't a factor :rolleyes: ) and told us we'd be allowed to have our CD players back when the numbers improved. My comment (to coworkers, not the pointy hairs) was the standard 'the beatings will continue until morale improves'. I'm not sure what eventually happened since we were even farther from the (virtually impossible to meet) nominal quotas my last full week there. :doh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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SockPuppeteer wrote:
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Wifi
Nihil obstat
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Hey! come on! Be fair. Oh, wait a minute - you are being fair.
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Well in my experiance, programmers have a pretty stressful life. Its is essenstial to give them adequet freedom in their workplace (not too much). Most sufable content should be monitored this is done with interest on the employees behalf and the companies behalf. The employee, because restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do. The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks. When it comes to worklife balance, flexi work hours should be naturally considered as this is a key aspect many employees look for in a software company. It would help them gain the work life balance they need. (Dont restrict listening to music while working) most programmers work better while blasting some tunes in their ears :) !!!!
I have to say, I disagree with the controls listed here. I just finished my MBA and work for a company with unfettered access to internet, social media, etc. Productivity is fine. Especially with smartphones, people will access facebook, twitter, etc. if they want. Unfortunately, access is slower on a smartphone, so it takes even longer to waste time. The theory is that, if you treat the employees as adults, they'll tend to act like adults. Some basic monitoring is okay, then address any outliers as needed. The only thing I would consider restricting would be obvious pornographic/gambling sites (just for your network's sake) and streaming media sites like Pandora, but only if you have a bandwidth concern. Judge the employees based on their productivity, not necessarily how they achieve productivity.
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Well in my experiance, programmers have a pretty stressful life. Its is essenstial to give them adequet freedom in their workplace (not too much). Most sufable content should be monitored this is done with interest on the employees behalf and the companies behalf. The employee, because restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do. The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks. When it comes to worklife balance, flexi work hours should be naturally considered as this is a key aspect many employees look for in a software company. It would help them gain the work life balance they need. (Dont restrict listening to music while working) most programmers work better while blasting some tunes in their ears :) !!!!
PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do
I don't agree with that one because: 1 - Employees that tend to engage a lot in social networking will still do it in their smartphones which will make them lose even more time with it. 2 - Social networking is just one part of what employees that like to drift away from work will do. Ban social networking they will just keep on browsing something else not work related. You have to fix the culture, not ban social networking. Monitoring employees internet usage and warning employees would be a much more effective way to boost productivity. 3 - I believe social networking can actually improve productivity as it is a good way to relieve stress sometimes and to take your mind away from a profession that is very brain intensive. Having a few minutes of relief in social networking can give the brain a break so it can have a fresh start in a few minutes. This of course works if the employee does not overuse social networking and uses common sense, which brings back to point 2.
PraneethNSubasekara wrote:
The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks.
I agree, but I don't think banning it altogether is any good. Video streaming of course shouldn't be allowed as it can compromise the bandwidth other employees might need. But some personal tasks should be allowed so the user does not have to leave the office just to pay some bills. This can be really bad for the employee's motivation. Small personal tasks like internet banking and others should be allowed IMO, as long as it does not compromise the client or the company's security and NDAs.
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internal law? what is that?
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Super Lloyd wrote:
internal law? what is that?
That's what pretexts management can use to hang people :laugh: