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  • B Brisingr Aerowing

    Never heard of it. I am building this as a learning tool and in the hope that it may help someone in the future.

    Bob Dole

    The internet is a great way to get on the net.

    :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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    Kevin Marois
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    Sorry, it's XNA Game Studio, not XML See this[^] It's essentially a WPF based game development package by Microsoft

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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    • W wout de zeeuw

      Tell Josh Smith he can come back from the dark realms of iOS. :)

      Wout

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Josh still does a lot of WPF. He went to the dark side of iOS because he wanted to learn something new and he didn't want to touch WinRT.

      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Then WPF is fine.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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        Brisingr Aerowing
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        So far I am having fun, the VS2012 WPF designer actually works. The WPF designer in BS2010 did not work very well (IME), so I never got into WPF then.

        Bob Dole

        The internet is a great way to get on the net.

        :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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        • W wout de zeeuw

          Glad to have provided you with some entertainment!

          Wout

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          Pete OHanlon
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          :-D As has been said - with Sinofsky condemned to the scrap heap, there's some hope ahead (look for enhancements that bring WPF/WinRT/WP7 etc to work with "the cloud" directly).

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          • W wout de zeeuw

            Here's a little gotcha: it's obsolete! (Yet paradoxically there ain't something that replaces it). :laugh:

            Wout

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            Dave Kreskowiak
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            Osbolete, huh? Then why was large chunks of the Visual Studio 2012 UI re-written with it??

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            • B Brisingr Aerowing

              So far I am having fun, the VS2012 WPF designer actually works. The WPF designer in BS2010 did not work very well (IME), so I never got into WPF then.

              Bob Dole

              The internet is a great way to get on the net.

              :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Yeah, the new designer is a huge improvement.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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              • K Kevin Marois

                I think you've got it backwards. MS is killing off Silverlight. Hence HTML5. Yet WPF is a key component in Win8 Desktop Development. http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/223007/microsoft-turn-silverlight[^]

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                Lost User
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                You'll have to keep re-reading my initial post until you understand it. When you post a reponse that shows you comprehend what I wrote I'll respond. If you never get there, we're done.

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Sorry, it's XNA Game Studio, not XML See this[^] It's essentially a WPF based game development package by Microsoft

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  Brisingr Aerowing
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                  I guessed as much. :) I likely will add bindings for that, but I also will add bindings for other game frameworks, so games can be built for Win8 (I actually like Win8, and XNA is not (officially) supported there). I might add bindings for ANX.Framework[^], which is a clone of XNA. It also (is supposed to) work on Win8 as well. I will likely use Axiom3D[^] as the built-in game GUI framework, with the ability to use either DirectX (through SlimDX), or OpenGL (through OpenTK) with it. I am deciding on which Physics engine to use, but will likely use Jitter Physics[^].

                  Bob Dole

                  The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                  :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Yeah, the new designer is a huge improvement.

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                    Brisingr Aerowing
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                    True that.

                    Bob Dole

                    The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                    :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                    • L Lost User

                      You'll have to keep re-reading my initial post until you understand it. When you post a reponse that shows you comprehend what I wrote I'll respond. If you never get there, we're done.

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                      Kevin Marois
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                      I got it fine. You basically suggested Silverlight over WPF, and my point to you is that Silverlight won't be around, and WPF will be. Not sure where the disconnect is here.

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      • B Brisingr Aerowing

                        I guessed as much. :) I likely will add bindings for that, but I also will add bindings for other game frameworks, so games can be built for Win8 (I actually like Win8, and XNA is not (officially) supported there). I might add bindings for ANX.Framework[^], which is a clone of XNA. It also (is supposed to) work on Win8 as well. I will likely use Axiom3D[^] as the built-in game GUI framework, with the ability to use either DirectX (through SlimDX), or OpenGL (through OpenTK) with it. I am deciding on which Physics engine to use, but will likely use Jitter Physics[^].

                        Bob Dole

                        The internet is a great way to get on the net.

                        :doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        I'm a big fan of FarSeer Physics[^]

                        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          wout de zeeuw wrote:

                          Here's a little gotcha: it's obsolete

                          Says who? maybe you haven't noticed, but WPF is a key tool in Win 8. It's not obsolete and it's not going anywhere.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          WPF is a key tool in Win 8

                          Really? Which apps those ship with Win 8 use WPF?

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                            Wout's wrong. WPF is not obsolete - the type of game you want to build will dictate whether or not WPF is a good choice. If it's something like Tetris, WPF is fine; if it's a FPS, then you don't want to use WPF.

                            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            If it's something like Tetris, WPF is fine; if it's a FPS, then you don't want to use WPF.

                            On the other hand HTML5 is good for both:). Ducks and runs.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Kevin Marois wrote:

                              WPF is a key tool in Win 8

                              Really? Which apps those ship with Win 8 use WPF?

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                              Kevin Marois
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                              Desktop apps

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              • K Kevin Marois

                                Desktop apps

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                Yes. I get that but which desktop app which ships with Windows 8 is actually written in WPF?

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Yes. I get that but which desktop app which ships with Windows 8 is actually written in WPF?

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                                  Kevin Marois
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                                  Hell if I know

                                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    Hell if I know

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    The right answer in none. The only one application which was written in WPF - Powershell IDE no longer ships in Windows 8. So to say WPF is a key tool in Windows 8 is not at all accurate. It is as much as a key tool as WTL.

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      The right answer in none. The only one application which was written in WPF - Powershell IDE no longer ships in Windows 8. So to say WPF is a key tool in Windows 8 is not at all accurate. It is as much as a key tool as WTL.

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                                      Kevin Marois
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                                      Um, sure. Whatever you say

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        If it's something like Tetris, WPF is fine; if it's a FPS, then you don't want to use WPF.

                                        On the other hand HTML5 is good for both:). Ducks and runs.

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Why? It is good for both.

                                        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                          Osbolete, huh? Then why was large chunks of the Visual Studio 2012 UI re-written with it??

                                          A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                                          Dave Kreskowiak

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                                          wout de zeeuw
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                                          MS does a lot of things that are not rational.

                                          Wout

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