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  • L Lost User

    Or a decorator, preferably combined with the NullObject-pattern :)

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    System.DBNull is an example of the pattern. And I can't describe in words how much I dislike it.

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      You were beat to the punch. :)

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      Septimus Hedgehog
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      So I was. Great minds think alike but in my case I'll pass up on the citation. ;) Hopefully it'll convince Muppet Maunder to read it and see if helps him.

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        If only there was some sort of site where people could write articles on exactly this issue[^]! ;P


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Chris Maunder
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        I am humbled and ashamed. And have just found an endless opportunity for way, way more procrastination.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          There is a way that you could do this, but it would be much more trouble than it was worth, and it would definitely open up a whole world of hurt. Effectively, what would need to be implemented is an IL rewriter to manage and rewrite the chain internally. Then you could create a fluid interface that would need to be recognised as the item that needs rewriting.

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          Chris Maunder
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          I respect a man who prefers power drills and small explosives where others would wimp out and use tweezers. :thumbsup:

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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            Out of curiosity, what would you do in the else section of such a call?

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            Chris Maunder
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            Else? There is no else. Just blindly plow on!

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I respect a man who prefers power drills and small explosives where others would wimp out and use tweezers. :thumbsup:

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Pete OHanlon
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              When I get the chance, I may just have a go at it. Need some free time first.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                Test.NotNull(myObject);
                if (myObject != null)
                {
                Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                ...
                }

                I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                CodeHawkz
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                The first code block doesn't make any sense to me but this line

                var result = Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                can be represented like this, can't you?

                var result = (myObject == null ? false: myObject.MyProperty == null ? false : IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                Just bouncing off an idea :) P.S. You can do it much simpler by using exceptions, I believe Cheers

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                • P Paul Conrad

                  You could just toss a :thumbsup: in place of a 5 vote.

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                  NormDroid
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                  Aye :thumbsup:

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                    Test.NotNull(myObject);
                    if (myObject != null)
                    {
                    Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                    if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                    Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                    ...
                    }

                    I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                    Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                    but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                    if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                    because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    englebart
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                    Would the C# ?? operator help you?
                    Would that do what you want? It definitely saves typing.
                    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms173224.aspx

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                      Test.NotNull(myObject);
                      if (myObject != null)
                      {
                      Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                      if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                      Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                      ...
                      }

                      I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                      Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                      but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                      if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                      because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      Cesar de Souza
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                      Not really an answer for the question you asked, but just a comment about error handling. A good strategy to avoid endless nested checks in error handling is to handle the opposite case first. So instead of writing

                      Test.NotNull(myObject);
                      if (myObject != null)
                      {
                      Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                      if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                      Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                      ...
                      }

                      we would have

                      Test.NotNull(myObject);
                      if (myObject == null)
                      return;

                      Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty)
                      if (myObject.MyProperty == null)
                      return;

                      Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                      ...

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                        Test.NotNull(myObject);
                        if (myObject != null)
                        {
                        Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                        if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                        Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                        ...
                        }

                        I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                        Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                        but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                        if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                        because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                        Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                        You can do that with extension methods! Just saying! ;)

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                          Test.NotNull(myObject);
                          if (myObject != null)
                          {
                          Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                          if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                          Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                          ...
                          }

                          I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                          Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                          but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                          if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                          because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Fabio Franco
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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          So this got me thinking: You can do

                          if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                          because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation.

                          Well, I find myself doing a lot of those kind of checks and it would save me a lot of time and potential bugs if there was such a language. But now you have just stimulated me to think about a general purpose solution in C#. Maybe if I find something I'll post it on tips and tricks.

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                          • C Cesar de Souza

                            Not really an answer for the question you asked, but just a comment about error handling. A good strategy to avoid endless nested checks in error handling is to handle the opposite case first. So instead of writing

                            Test.NotNull(myObject);
                            if (myObject != null)
                            {
                            Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                            if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                            Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                            ...
                            }

                            we would have

                            Test.NotNull(myObject);
                            if (myObject == null)
                            return;

                            Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty)
                            if (myObject.MyProperty == null)
                            return;

                            Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                            ...

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            #54

                            Not sure how that counts as handling the opposite case first, but I see what you mean and I do do that, though I do try and have only 2 exit points in a routine: 1 at the top when input fails, and the return at the end. Hence my thought that it would be nice having a single chained line at the top. All good discussion though. I love it.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                              Test.NotNull(myObject);
                              if (myObject != null)
                              {
                              Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                              if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                              Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                              ...
                              }

                              I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                              Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                              but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                              if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                              because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Alan Balkany
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                              It might be simpler to just push the test down into a function call. This keeps the calling method simple, making the code more understandable and maintainable. Anyone maintaining the code doesn't have to reason about a unique control structure, and can skip all the details to focus on the overall algorithm. If they're curious about the test, they can optionally browse the testing function. The chaining looks cool, but is more complex than a sequence of plain, vanilla, if statements.

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                Not sure how that counts as handling the opposite case first, but I see what you mean and I do do that, though I do try and have only 2 exit points in a routine: 1 at the top when input fails, and the return at the end. Hence my thought that it would be nice having a single chained line at the top. All good discussion though. I love it.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Cesar de Souza
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                                #56

                                Sorry, I should have meant "handle the error case first and exit as soon as possible", even if this "as soon as possible" will only occur in the middle of the function. Usually I don't have problems with multiple exit points in a function. Those are particularly useful, for example, when implementing a syntax parser from a LL(1) grammar. Another situation may happen, for example, if you are in the middle of a very nested loop and would like to exit them all. Refactoring the loop into its own function and using a return is often one of the clearest ways to quit all loops at once, specially in comparison with the alternative which is to maintain quite a number of done variables guarding the loop exits as in

                                for (int i = 0; i < n && !done; i++)

                                By the way, another sensible alternative for this case is also to use a goto statement, this being one of the few justified cases for using it. I know this doesn't have anything to do with your question either, but I am just keeping up the discussion :)

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                  Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                  if (myObject != null)
                                  {
                                  Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                  if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                  Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                  Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                  but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                  if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                  because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Actually, there is something like that. It's called Embarcadero Prism (ex Delphi Prism). Borland made Delphi Prism using the Oxygene language (ex Chrome) through some agreement with RemObjects Software. Borland needed it as a .NET language replacement for the trully crappy Borland Delphi.NET. Check this beauty out: http://wiki.oxygenelanguage.com/en/Oxygene\_by\_Example\_-\_Colon\_and\_Null

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                    Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                    if (myObject != null)
                                    {
                                    Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                    if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                    Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                    ...
                                    }

                                    I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                    Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                    but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                    if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                    because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                    You can't possibly call this cool. This is a code janitor's nightmare. If any part of that fails, you don't know what has failed so you end up breaking it down into

                                    aa = Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                    bb = aa.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty)
                                    cc = bb.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                    to see what is falling over. Cool is only for those who make a mess then disappear off to another job and leave someone else to tidy up their mess. They've never had to maintain the crap they generate and they find it difficult to understand, let alone maintain someone else's mess. This means that you have to hire an expensive janitor to unravel the coolness. You really don't want cool - you want maintainability so you can hire a cheap code janitor (fresh graddy).

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                                      Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                      You can't possibly call this cool. This is a code janitor's nightmare. If any part of that fails, you don't know what has failed so you end up breaking it down into

                                      aa = Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                      bb = aa.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty)
                                      cc = bb.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                      to see what is falling over. Cool is only for those who make a mess then disappear off to another job and leave someone else to tidy up their mess. They've never had to maintain the crap they generate and they find it difficult to understand, let alone maintain someone else's mess. This means that you have to hire an expensive janitor to unravel the coolness. You really don't want cool - you want maintainability so you can hire a cheap code janitor (fresh graddy).

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      :| I was discussing a concept, not presenting production code.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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