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  • C Colborne_Greg

    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
    Try
    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
            Try
                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                    (
                        New Image With
                        {
                            .Height = 150,
                            .Width = 150,
                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                            (
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                            )
                        }
                    )
            Catch
            End Try
        Next
    Catch
    End Try
    

    End Sub

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    JMK NI
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    You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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    • C Colborne_Greg

      no with operator in C#

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      Pete OHanlon
      wrote on last edited by
      #18

      I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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        You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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        Colborne_Greg
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        That code doesn't fail

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        • C Colborne_Greg

          I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

          Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
          Try
          AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

              For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                  Try
                      AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                          (
                              New Image With
                              {
                                  .Height = 150,
                                  .Width = 150,
                                  .Source = RotateStream \_
                                  (
                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                  )
                              }
                          )
                  Catch
                  End Try
              Next
          Catch
          End Try
          

          End Sub

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          Lost User
          wrote on last edited by
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          Colborne_Greg wrote:

          Catch End Try

          No, it doesn't need more credit; and your example sums up nicely why VB got that reputation :) Yes, you can swallow exceptions in other languages too, but it doesn't happen as often there as it does in VB.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          • C Colborne_Greg

            I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

            Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
            Try
            AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                    Try
                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                            (
                                New Image With
                                {
                                    .Height = 150,
                                    .Width = 150,
                                    .Source = RotateStream \_
                                    (
                                        Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                        Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                    )
                                }
                            )
                    Catch
                    End Try
                Next
            Catch
            End Try
            

            End Sub

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            Jorgen Andersson
            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            I totally agree on that most of the complaints about VB is of the immature kind. But one thing I need to give them is the On Error Resume abomination. Which you sadly have emulated with your empty Catch. :sigh: My personal opinion is that since C# and VB.Net is based on the same CLR and the same Framework, most quarrels are just silly. Use what you feel most at home with, but stop being ridiculous about it!

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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              Colborne_Greg
              wrote on last edited by
              #22

              No better way to learn. I was told that C# and visual basic are the same language but I can find things in Visual Basic that are not in C# and things in C# that are not in Visual Basic

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              • L Lost User

                Colborne_Greg wrote:

                Catch End Try

                No, it doesn't need more credit; and your example sums up nicely why VB got that reputation :) Yes, you can swallow exceptions in other languages too, but it doesn't happen as often there as it does in VB.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                Colborne_Greg
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                That's just laziness and the expectation that it works 100% of the time

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                • C Colborne_Greg

                  I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                  Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                  Try
                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                      For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                          Try
                              AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                  (
                                      New Image With
                                      {
                                          .Height = 150,
                                          .Width = 150,
                                          .Source = RotateStream \_
                                          (
                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                          )
                                      }
                                  )
                          Catch
                          End Try
                      Next
                  Catch
                  End Try
                  

                  End Sub

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                  ZurdoDev
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  I do miss the with operator. I have cases where it could save hundreds of characters and make it way easier to read. Don't listen to the C# purists. :zzz:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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                    Kenneth Haugland
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    With his pants on fire :laugh: I read somewhere that there are things that VB can do and C# can't an vice versa though... Think it had something to do with Errorhandling ?

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      So, the same as Auto-initialisation in C# then.

                      new Image{ Height = 150, Width= 150 }

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                      Colborne_Greg
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      I never knew

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        Colborne_Greg
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        I would say the opposite

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                        • C Colborne_Greg

                          That code doesn't fail

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                          Pualee
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                          #28

                          What if Pictures is null?

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            No better way to learn. I was told that C# and visual basic are the same language but I can find things in Visual Basic that are not in C# and things in C# that are not in Visual Basic

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                            PIEBALDconsult
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              As well there shouldn't be. C# doesn't need it.

                              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                              Colborne_Greg
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              Considering the missing connection between me knowing C# can get away without using the with word, proves its problems. The with keyword gets the coder in a mindset.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                I do miss the with operator. I have cases where it could save hundreds of characters and make it way easier to read. Don't listen to the C# purists. :zzz:

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                RyanDev wrote:

                                and make it way easier to read

                                I would argue the opposite.

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                • P Pualee

                                  What if Pictures is null?

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                                  Colborne_Greg
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  If pictures is null the memory space creates itself and returns a empty album list

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                                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                    See my answer to your other post - you don't need the With operator in C# for object or collection initializers.


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                    Colborne_Greg
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #33

                                    this message is spam

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      RyanDev wrote:

                                      and make it way easier to read

                                      I would argue the opposite.

                                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      ZurdoDev
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      A lot of people do. I can't understand why, but yes, a lot of people do.

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                      • C Colborne_Greg

                                        I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                        Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                        Try
                                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                            For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                                Try
                                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                        (
                                                            New Image With
                                                            {
                                                                .Height = 150,
                                                                .Width = 150,
                                                                .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                                (
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                                )
                                                            }
                                                        )
                                                Catch
                                                End Try
                                            Next
                                        Catch
                                        End Try
                                        

                                        End Sub

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                                        BobJanova
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                                        #35

                                        If you'd picked a case of With doing namespace/object elision, you might have a point. But as several people have pointed out, this is an object initialiser which is included in C# and (I think) has been since the same .Net compiler version as the VB.Net syntax you're demonstrating. Other languages like JavaScript, Ruby, Perl etc can create objects with data in a single statement like this, too, and have been able to for years. If you're going to make a claim like "no other language can do [something your fave can]" then at least a tiny bit of research would be a good idea.

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                                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                          Just because you don't need the extra keyword doesn't mean that C# can't do it:

                                          new Image
                                          {
                                          Height = 150,
                                          Width = 150,
                                          Source = RotateStream
                                          (
                                          Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Picture,
                                          Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Angle
                                          )
                                          }


                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                          Colborne_Greg
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          That code would fail as the scopes would be confused

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