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  • L Lost User

    Well, that's not really what he is saying, even though it appears so. But, as usual, a knee-jerk response tends to sound pretty silly.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    It sounds clear...

    David Cameron:

    "Are we going to allow a means of communications which it simply isn't possible to read? My answer to that question is: 'No, we must not.'"

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      He's absolutely right, of course. I mean, a couple of men with guns killed some people in another country, so our only possible response is to give up more of our civil liberties. Why are you having such trouble seeing the obvious?

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      I assume that you fear things you don't know much about the most, so I guess he is afraid of the "plebs" or "mobile vulgus" :laugh:

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      • D Duncan Edwards Jones

        What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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        Slacker007
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        Big brother doesn't want to work for their supper.

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        • L Lost User

          Well, that's not really what he is saying, even though it appears so. But, as usual, a knee-jerk response tends to sound pretty silly.

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          Slacker007
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          It's not entirely, knee jerk response. Governments want to control message encryption to a certain degree; that is fact, not fiction.

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          • D Duncan Edwards Jones

            What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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            GuyThiebaut
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            It's a good thing I am going to be soon releasing a piece of steganography software I have written. The sunshines won't have a clue how files are encrypted within images, even if they get hold of the source code.

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

            ― Christopher Hitchens

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            • D Duncan Edwards Jones

              What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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              Munchies_Matt
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              What a tit he is. Really. The problem with the Paris incident is the failure of the French to surveil these people despite them being known affiliates of terrorists. That, was a stupid mistake to make.

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              • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                Has he lost the plot completely?

                No. In order to lose it, he'd need to have had it in the first place.


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  He's absolutely right, of course. I mean, a couple of men with guns killed some people in another country, so our only possible response is to give up more of our civil liberties. Why are you having such trouble seeing the obvious?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Dan Neely
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                  ehhhh, it makes a nice change from: BAN ALL THE THINGS FOR THE CHILDRENZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11eleventyone111!!11

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                    Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                    Has he lost the plot completely?

                    No. In order to lose it, he'd need to have had it in the first place.


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                    A friend of mine back in the UK, who is very politically aware, said this not long after Cameron got elected: "From time-to-time the electorate makes choices that you don't politically agree with; that's democracy. But when they elect an incompetent administration ..."

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                    • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                      What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                      KarstenK
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                      Not really - he only wants to read your messaging :~

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                      • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                        What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                        He should have retired after he made Titanic.

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                        • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                          What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Sorry, that ship has sailed.

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                          • G GenJerDan

                            He should have retired after he made Titanic.

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                            GenJerDan wrote:

                            He should have retired after he made Titanic.

                            He should have retired after before he made Titanic.

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                            • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                              What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                              Lost User
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                              I'd say the last few PM's we've had have probably been amongst the worst this country's ever seen. The next one isn't looking great either :(

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                              • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                If your password is difficult enough you don't need encryption anyway! :D

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                                • M Munchies_Matt

                                  What a tit he is. Really. The problem with the Paris incident is the failure of the French to surveil these people despite them being known affiliates of terrorists. That, was a stupid mistake to make.

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  One explanation I heard for that dropping of surveillance was to reduce expenses.

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

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                                  • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                    What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                                    W Balboos GHB
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                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                      What David Cameron just proposed would endanger every Briton and destroy the IT industry[^]... Has he lost the plot completely?

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                                      Member 4724084
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                                      Not really, as encryption is becoming more and more irrelevant. Even AES256 can be broken in a rather trivial manner with multiple programmable GPU's. Every message should be readable? A more correct statement would be every message is readable with a little bit of knowledge and the right hardware.

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                                      • S Slacker007

                                        It's not entirely, knee jerk response. Governments want to control message encryption to a certain degree; that is fact, not fiction.

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                                        Leo56
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                                        True. It's WHY they want to control it that concerns me...

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          One explanation I heard for that dropping of surveillance was to reduce expenses.

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          Leo56
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                                          Your first quote sums up Cameron so perfectly....

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