Pictures from "operation free Iraq"

[Tim Smith]

Wahoo, the propaganda begins. I guess Arabs would rather have people killed by their own madmen. "Saddam might be sick killing bastard, but at least he is our sick killing bastard!" Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

[David Wulff]

I fail to see how calling someone a "Loser" bears and resemblence to what you have just said. Come on people, don't let this place fall into the same mess you find everywhere else on the net, one of the things really going for this community is that it has manners if not common sense.

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David Wulff

"Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

[Philip Patrick]

I'm always watching CNN, but they never show what REALLY happen here, in Israel. You think I should post such pictures here too? Also IMHO all TV, radio, newspapers are like prostitutes, whoever is paying money, getting their attention, no matter what side they are. Irishcoffee9 wrote: you can not force freedom like this Freedom not, but safity yes Philip Patrick Web-site: www.stpworks.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer

[realJSOP]

Dave, you're being a bit of a hypocrite (you've been just as bad as the rest of us, but please don't become pedantic and request a specific reference - you know you've been a bad monkey). The problem with "this place falling into the same mess" isn't because of people that aren't hobbled some false sense of morality or decency, it's because of the fuckwads (like Samer12 and IrishCoffee9) that are allowed to join/stay. We were doing just fine before the influx of idiots we've seen over the last 12 months. Now, we have barely literate assholes stirring shit up on the lounge, ignoring the posting rules, and generally degrading the overall quality of articles we see. It's time to take CP back from the religious zealots, political know-it-alls, and idiot students begging for us to do their fuckin' homework. If you don't want to be part of a solution to the problem, then STFU. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

[Marc Clifton]

Come on people, don't let this place fall into the same mess you find everywhere else on the net, OK. Yes, good point. (I got confused, I thought you were responding to my other not so kind reply in the same thread). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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[David Wulff]

If you can't see the difference then open your eyes...

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David Wulff

"Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

[alper]

No comment...

[Doug Goulden]

The question that I have is where and when were these pictures taken? And what actually harmed these people, it could have been anti aircraft fire falling back to earth. There was obviously no shortage of metal being thrown into sky over the last few days. It is possible that these were innocent people killed by Iraqi fire or by the Coalition by accident. I think that once this is over, the truth will be more obvious. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

[Vagif Abilov]

Here is a problem, John. All faithful CP members like to see its growth. 100,000 members! 500,000 members! 10,000,000 members! :) But this growth comes at a price. I agree that the quality of postings degraded - in my opinion, of course, I can't be an objective judge. But isn't this a price for popularity? Isn't it too optimistic to hope we can grow up to a million members without losing in quality of our discussions? And with restricted access to CP, it will probably be hard for Chris to convince his sponsors - the site is free for us all. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

[MJDamron]

Put a cork in it! Michael Damron mjdamron@digitalworx.net

[brianwelsch]

Doug Goulden wrote: The question that I have is where and when were these pictures taken? Exactly! It could have been pre-war. Perhaps, if the writing were at least in English, we could even see what they were saying. Who knows maybe the paper is saying "Look at the horror we won't have to live with anymore" We just don't know. (and no I'm not naive enough to think people aren't getting hurt by our bombs) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

[Matt Gullett]

The Iraqi regime has plenty of viciously killed civilians to photograph and present to the world. Most of them were killed by Sadaam before this or any other war. I am not shocked or disgusted by these pictures, I am angered by them. These pictures are being presented as evidence of the atrocity of the US against the Iraqi people with absolutely no objectivity. I can appreciate other people’s views and opinions, but when you show no objectivity or even concern for others and try to push your twisted view of the world on others, I draw a line. I don’t believe for one moment that you truly care about the Iraqi people, because if you did, you would be presenting an objective view of reality. Include pictures of Iraqi’s killed, raped or dismembered by Sadaam. Talk about the value of human life, discuss the potential for real disarmament, potential future wars, etc. Just don’t show how stupid you really are by presenting totally non-objective materials with no supporting evidence. Please find a better use for your time and intellect or at the very least post this crap in the Soapbox. Matt Gullett PS. It looks like you signed up for CP just to post this crap. Go away.

[Paul Watson]

Irishcoffee9 wrote: ...aljazeera... God forbid it but the South African Broadcasting Corporation is thinking of replacing CNN with Aljazeera. Now CNN is pretty bad I admit, but Aljazeera is like an infomercial for down-trodden Arabs. One hundred bucks says Sadman writes half their copy while on the crapper.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

Paul Watson wrote: God forbid it but the South African Broadcasting Corporation is thinking of replacing CNN with Aljazeera. :wtf: What's the motivation for that? I might be wrong on this one, but I believe SA has more in common with the western world than with the arabic world. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

[Paul Watson]

South Africa is a bit of a paradox most of the time. Infrastructure, business, economics, goods, cities etc. are all very westernised. Apart from the tube London has virtually nothing that Cape Town or Joburg does not. That is because of apartheid where 5million whites ruled 40million non-whites. The whites came mainly from Europe and so have European ways (even though the Dutch (Afrikaans) are quite different to us English whites.) Now things have changed. The majority is aboriginal Africans, blacks. Then there is a big sector of coloureds (a race formed from whites sleeping with blacks.) Also plenty of Indians and Malays. Not that many Arabs, but some. Religion wise it is either Christianity or Islam. The Muslims are rather vocal. Christianity is obviously related to western ways, and since most South Africans don't like the yanks or poms very much they naturally side with the ME and the East. Also remember our president and former president are great pals with the likes of Gadafi and other fun characters. Anyway so the plan is to get rid of depending on the west for news. Unfortunatley without the western media there is very few alternatives. Obviously far east stuff is worthless here. So it falls to the ME. Aljazeera. They had a trial run the other night. It was horrific. Had a chap speaking in Arabic or whatever with subtitles in another Arab language. Then they had a voice over of some Arab translating the Arabic into English. But it was a horrendous translation, understood about 1/3 of what he said. I think the plan is to switch to BBC, yay!, and Aljazeera, sigh, in a 50/50 split.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that there were so many muslims in SA. I thought the missionaries had christened every living soul by now. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

[Rohit Sinha]

Matt Gullett wrote: I can appreciate other people’s views and opinions, but when you show no objectivity or even concern for others and try to push your twisted view of the world on others, I draw a line. Very well said. I find selective vision or concern upsetting too.
Regards,

Rohit Sinha

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[co7eguy]

Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I didn't know that there were so many muslims in SA. There aren't. It's only about 2.5% of the population.

[ColinDavies]

One non politically correct comment I have read suggests that African Christians and tribal religions are more likely to be susceptable to the Aids epedemic than the African Muslims. If this is true, it could really change the demographics of the continent. Regardz Colin J Davies

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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

[Brit]

It would be interesting to know: (1) If these were recent pictures (2) If these pictures were taken in Iraq (as opposed to, say, Chechnya) (3) If these deaths were actually cause by the Americans (as opposed to being killed by Iraq) Journalists here are saying that Iraqi officials have been taking them to see residential houses that have been bombed, telling them about mass civilian casualties and deaths. But, when they talk to neighbors in the area, the Iraqi civilians tell the journalists that the houses were empty - no one was living there! What other propaganda have the Iraqis been pushing? Also, journalists who have talked to Iraqis in hospitals all have been saying the same thing: their house wasn't bombed - rather - they were in the wrong place at the wrong time - for example, one woman was walking past a presidential palace when it was hit. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion