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Proof of the astronomical probability that You do not exist !

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  • L Lost User

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Before the beginning of the universe,

    But there was no before ...

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Sure there was. We totally unimportant creatures on a totally unimportant world in a totally unimportant solar system in a totally unimportant arm of a totally unimportant galaxy in a totally unimportant tiny region of the universe don't know what it was like, but the universe doesn't care about our opinion, because it's totally unimportant.

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      Sure there was. We totally unimportant creatures on a totally unimportant world in a totally unimportant solar system in a totally unimportant arm of a totally unimportant galaxy in a totally unimportant tiny region of the universe don't know what it was like, but the universe doesn't care about our opinion, because it's totally unimportant.

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      Lost User
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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      totally unimportant creatures

      Speak for yourself ;) Depends if the single-big-bang theory is true, really. If Time started with the big bang, then the very concept of 'before' cannot exist.

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        Mark_Wallace wrote:

        totally unimportant creatures

        Speak for yourself ;) Depends if the single-big-bang theory is true, really. If Time started with the big bang, then the very concept of 'before' cannot exist.

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        Time became what it is with the big bang; that's subtly different from starting. Still, why waste energy thinking about it? Sooner or later, someone (possibly on a different but equally totally unimportant planet) will make a time machine, and there'll be another big bang, so every totally unimportant thing we ever do will be gone.

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          Time became what it is with the big bang; that's subtly different from starting. Still, why waste energy thinking about it? Sooner or later, someone (possibly on a different but equally totally unimportant planet) will make a time machine, and there'll be another big bang, so every totally unimportant thing we ever do will be gone.

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          Lost User
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          or maybe it's already happened :)

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Ah, the way statistics can manipulate reality. On the other hand, the probably that any human exists is 100% -- after all, humans exist. It's irrelevant to ask the probably that I exist because all those humans that exist are "I's" and the ones that don't are obviously "not I." In other words, you cannot have a human exist that is not an "I" (meaning, a unique individual to which we can say "you" to.) Silly statistics. :) Marc

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            Nish Nishant
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Silly statistics

            Three statisticians go hunting together. They see a deer, and the first statistician shoots, but his shot misses by a foot to the left. Then the second statistician shoots, but his shot misses by a foot to the right. The third statistician says "Okay, we got it!"

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              You obviously go to different casinos than those I've visited.

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              I usually go to casinos to visit my money.

              The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                You're right. Elegance is simplicity.

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                AXAMLMAN
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                And Simplicity is Elegant.

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                • B BillWoodruff

                  I've always had my doubts since I was wee tad and heard my parents talking, and my father saying: "but, where did he come from ?:" [^]

                  «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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                  Rui_Dias
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                  Odds are not applicable once an experiment's outcome is known/becomes a fact. Whoever did that poster wasted his (or her) time and made other waste theirs (including mine!) Be happy.

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                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                    I'm not entirely sure what the meaning of the words are, as per usual in these theorems. But it was said of QM that if you hit a tennis ball and infinite number of times on a wall it will at one point just pass through the wall. The theorem seem to say that QM can influence the result in any way? :doh:

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                    9082365
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                    That seems like a lot of work. Can I not just put the ball on a piece of concrete and wait?

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                    • B BillWoodruff

                      I've always had my doubts since I was wee tad and heard my parents talking, and my father saying: "but, where did he come from ?:" [^]

                      «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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                      So that's why I can't see my reflection in a mirror?

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                      • R Rui_Dias

                        Odds are not applicable once an experiment's outcome is known/becomes a fact. Whoever did that poster wasted his (or her) time and made other waste theirs (including mine!) Be happy.

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                        Quote:

                        Odds are not applicable

                        Indeed. Everything evens out in the end!

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          I've always had my doubts since I was wee tad and heard my parents talking, and my father saying: "but, where did he come from ?:" [^]

                          «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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                          iacopovettori
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                          The real mess comes when you ask to yourself why on the Earth I am entitled to perceive subjectively just that particular human being that was born in those particular circumstances... or even better: the fact that in the whole world existed some very particular circumstances (whatever they were) capable to make "me" feel subjectively "alive". People that realize that this is the real problem may be interested to what I wrote at http://www.iacopovettori.it/laterzaipotesi/eng/ArgumentsProOI.aspx (with some discussions also with professional philosophers).

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                          • 9 9082365

                            That seems like a lot of work. Can I not just put the ball on a piece of concrete and wait?

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                            Kenneth Haugland
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                            :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                            • B BillWoodruff

                              I've always had my doubts since I was wee tad and heard my parents talking, and my father saying: "but, where did he come from ?:" [^]

                              «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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                              ttennebb
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                              In the grand scheme of the universe, I do not exist even though I am answering this silly question. No probability about it.

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                              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                Like many before him, the author is confusing pre-hoc and post-hoc statistics. For example: The probability of a couple having four children, all sons, is 1 in 16. Given that they have three sons, the probability of them having a fourth is 1 in 2. In like manner: Given my remote ancestor, the probability of my future existence is very small. Given that I already exist (Cogito, ergo sum), the probability of my existence is 100%.

                                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                TNCaver
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                                The original image was published on a Harvard Law blog, so one can perhaps understand the lack of statistical expertise of the blogger.

                                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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