"I refuse to work in C#"

[R Giskard Reventlov]

Wow! Does no one actually read something or understand it before they respond. Plainly, in your case, they don't. Have very nice notepad life.

[Mookie Baylock]

yep, you're right. never disagreed with that. but still, I won't use a caterpillar to dig a sand castle. unless I want to live in the sand castle which doesn't sound that wise either. the real problem here is extremism. when you only have a hammer, that hammer is the solution to everything. the guy that said he won't code c# because of having to use a IDE has his hammer and refuses to leave it. he can solve anything with it. the other guys do exactly like him, but with a different hammer. their hammer. well, let them hammer themselves until one gets tired. :P

Err...say what?

[SeattleC]

If your colleague really wants to be an idiot, there's nothing stopping them from using some antique line-oriented editor (remember DEC's SOS editor from the 1970s?, or maybe emacs on a VT-100 terminal) to edit their program and using visual studio's command-line tools to compile it. There's even a way to install just the command-line compiler and linker. Horrible as it sounds, that's how google's Chromium project compiles for windows. I suspect your colleague's disdain for C# probably goes deeper than that. Visual Studio's IDE is really quite productive, though I also like Eclipse (when it isn't crashing on me). Sigh.

[rodrigo_orem]

I think you guys are missing the point. A good text editor has nothing to do with notepad (I think notepad++ isn't a satisfactory improvement). I work daily with SublimeText, and I assure you I'm more productive and learned a lot than when I used Visual Studio/C#. Like your coworker, I defended a platform change in our company. We have successfully migrated our C# solution, that ran only in Windows, in a Django/Python service. I had fights with my teammates at the time, it wasn't a soft transition, but there's a lot of advantages, we ship code better and faster than never. I doubt that anyone code in Visual Studio faster than an expert vim programmer. I've seen one of them in a Google keynote about Angular.js, they are insanely fast. There's no reason to develop a serious application in a closed platform, which project itself is a great failure (they copied the JIT compiler thing from Java, except that Java does it because it's multiplatform, opposed to .NET -- Mono is buggy and very very unofficial). The worst part is that a single company that controls everything. The best thing that happened to software development was open source, an having a good community around it makes the difference The community around C# is poor, partially because they can't have a role in the language/framework development. "Open source" doesn't mean I'm saying "linux rules windows sucks", I'm talking about reusing code/components from someone else. You do it everyday, except that the guys who write the code you reuse are Microsoft employees pressed to keep old standards, the code that I use are from passionated developers around the world.

[drumzzzzz_39]

Suppose, if you really wanted to, one could draw an entire 2015 Dodge Viper in 3d via the Autocad commandline, Of course most would likely prefer the IDE ;P

[Edwin Smith]

I had a KIM-1 with 4 KB memory. No disk, no tape. Just a hex keypad and a 6 X 7 segment display. After an hour of hand keying in the program you could play Hunt the Wumpus!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[englebart]

Is there a macro that could be used to call Access VBA? "Wow, you did all of this with a single line of macros." [and a few hundred lines of "real" code]

[englebart]

You do not need an IDE to program C#. You can always use any text editor and csc.exe. (C-Sharp Compiler) If you have dotNET, you have csc.exe.

[Member_5893260]

Whoa! With that sort of advanced capability, you'll even be able to run "Adventure For The Stupid" (tm): 10 print "You are in a cave..." 20 line input I$ 30 goto 10

[User 10300468]

Tempting, but the boss at the time was too savvy for that kind of sneakiness.

[RASPeter]

In my first programming class we had these workstations with an 8080A, an octal keypad, and 3 rows of 8 LEDs (with pin-outs if you wanted to be fancy and wire up a 7-segment). I can't seem to find it on Google, though.

[lesNZ]

My first computer (actually my employers) was a Burroughs main frame (!) with 9.6k memory, no disk, mag tapes, no operating system.

[GStrad]

I used a similar set up called a D5 if I remember right, 6802 based though

[MKJCP]

My first computer was a simple Base 10 analog machine. It had 2 parts attached to the end of my arms. I still have it and use it when I don't want to be bothered with an IDE to hammer screws in or pound nails with a screwdriver.

[Mark I]

I think that should be classed as 'digit'al, not analogue.

[Yvan Rodrigues]

Me too! 70s kids REPRESENT! (I was pretty jealous later when all my friends got Commodore 64s. :|

Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

[Olfello]

I can't resist as well: started with a PDP-8 with 8kB Memory (real magnetic rings with 4 wires...) and punch tape.

[lesNZ]

Fingers? You were lucky to have fingers. Luxury!

[TheGreatAndPowerfulOz]

Well, for that he (and you) can just install Atom.io[^]

Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

[PIEBALDconsult]

I think I looked at that a few years ago.