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  • H HobbyProggy

    Dominic Burford wrote:

    x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y.

    Wrong... aint it? x2 -y2 / (x-y) => x+y xy -y2 / (x-y) => y+y xy / x-y => 1*1/1-1 => (actually how could you divide this when there is a minus...) y2 / x-y => y/x-1 => (actually how could you devide this when there is a minus...) But i guess thats bullshit 2 because it "should"? be x2/x-y - y2/x-y which ruins everything :) Okay screw everything... you are wrong, thats all i can say :)

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    HobbyProggy wrote:

    xy -y2 / (x-y) => y+y

    Nope. xy-y2 = y(x-y)

    You have just been Sharapova'd.

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      HobbyProggy wrote:

      xy -y2 / (x-y) => y+y

      Nope. xy-y2 = y(x-y)

      You have just been Sharapova'd.

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      Ah yeah i started to correct it because i know its not correct :) you have to divide every part of that equation that leads to funny result :)

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      • D Dominic Burford

        x = y. Then x2 = xy. Subtract the same thing from both sides: x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y. Since x = y, we see that 2 y = y. Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero. Subtracting 1 from both sides, 1 = 0. :wtf:

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        http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x2%3Dxy[^] you can use this site to experiment with your theories?

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        • D Dominic Burford

          x = y. Then x2 = xy. Subtract the same thing from both sides: x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y. Since x = y, we see that 2 y = y. Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero. Subtracting 1 from both sides, 1 = 0. :wtf:

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          A high school teacher showed this to me some 10+ years back (feeling old now). All I can say is no.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            A high school teacher showed this to me some 10+ years back (feeling old now). All I can say is no.

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            The only thing i can agree with is that 1 != 3/3 (at least not exactly) because 1/3 is 0,333... and multiplied with 3 it is just 0,99999.... which is technically 1 but not 100%

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            • D Dominic Burford

              x = y. Then x2 = xy. Subtract the same thing from both sides: x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y. Since x = y, we see that 2 y = y. Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero. Subtracting 1 from both sides, 1 = 0. :wtf:

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              Quote:

              Dividing by (x-y), obtain...

              ...the silent reproach of a million tear-stained eyes. :((

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              • H HobbyProggy

                The only thing i can agree with is that 1 != 3/3 (at least not exactly) because 1/3 is 0,333... and multiplied with 3 it is just 0,99999.... which is technically 1 but not 100%

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                Quote:

                0,99999.... which is technically 1 but not 100%

                Uh?

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                  Quote:

                  0,99999.... which is technically 1 but not 100%

                  Uh?

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                  Whats the matter ?

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                  • D Dominic Burford

                    x = y. Then x2 = xy. Subtract the same thing from both sides: x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y. Since x = y, we see that 2 y = y. Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero. Subtracting 1 from both sides, 1 = 0. :wtf:

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                    Dominic Burford wrote:

                    since we started with y nonzero.

                    oh, the irony.

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                    • H HobbyProggy

                      The only thing i can agree with is that 1 != 3/3 (at least not exactly) because 1/3 is 0,333... and multiplied with 3 it is just 0,99999.... which is technically 1 but not 100%

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                      if the numerator and denominator are equal then the value must be 1. Then the second part is almost right, but you missed a very important point, a recurring value is only an *approximation* rather than the absolute. 1/3 is absolute, but the decimal 0.3. is only an approximation. Proof, without bad maths of the 9's reccuring - 0.9. == 1 Multiply by 10: 9.9. = 10 Subtract the original: 9.9. - 0.9. = 9 9 = 9 QED. This is accepted as proper maths, the 1=0 using division by zero is, however, not.

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        if the numerator and denominator are equal then the value must be 1. Then the second part is almost right, but you missed a very important point, a recurring value is only an *approximation* rather than the absolute. 1/3 is absolute, but the decimal 0.3. is only an approximation. Proof, without bad maths of the 9's reccuring - 0.9. == 1 Multiply by 10: 9.9. = 10 Subtract the original: 9.9. - 0.9. = 9 9 = 9 QED. This is accepted as proper maths, the 1=0 using division by zero is, however, not.

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        Nice :) But i guess as long as we have an approximation i'll go with its not exactly 1 :P

                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        This is accepted as proper maths, the 1=0 using division by zero is, however, not.

                        I already said that in an other statement that hes wrong

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                        • H HobbyProggy

                          Whats the matter ?

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                          0.9999... is 1.

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                            0.9999... is 1.

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                            By definition, not by maths :)

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                            • D Dominic Burford

                              x = y. Then x2 = xy. Subtract the same thing from both sides: x2 - y2 = xy - y2. Dividing by (x-y), obtain x + y = y. Since x = y, we see that 2 y = y. Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero. Subtracting 1 from both sides, 1 = 0. :wtf:

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                              Ah, the ol' divide by zero trick. I think my math teacher did that when I was in 8th grade. Almost 40 years ago. And I'm sure it's older than that. ;) Marc

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                              • H HobbyProggy

                                By definition, not by maths :)

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                                By maths. There's no difference.

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                                  By maths. There's no difference.

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                                  Allright, tell that the next flightcomputer that breakes down because he multiplied 0,333 and didn't get to 1 ;)

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                                  • H HobbyProggy

                                    Allright, tell that the next flightcomputer that breakes down because he multiplied 0,333 and didn't get to 1 ;)

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                                    You know, float are not real numbers. (likewise Computer Science is not Mathematics) :-D

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                                      You know, float are not real numbers. (likewise Computer Science is not Mathematics) :-D

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                                      CPallini wrote:

                                      (likewise Computer Science is not Mathematics)

                                      But its both logic :) And 0,999 is not 1 it's even written different :sigh: But i guess we could debate ages about that

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                                      • H HobbyProggy

                                        CPallini wrote:

                                        (likewise Computer Science is not Mathematics)

                                        But its both logic :) And 0,999 is not 1 it's even written different :sigh: But i guess we could debate ages about that

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                                        Right: we could follow all the nines until we find a difference. :laugh:

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                                        • H HobbyProggy

                                          CPallini wrote:

                                          (likewise Computer Science is not Mathematics)

                                          But its both logic :) And 0,999 is not 1 it's even written different :sigh: But i guess we could debate ages about that

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                                          Take your pick: How Can 0.999... = 1? | Purplemath[^] For example:

                                            x = 0.999...
                                          

                                          10x = 9.999...
                                          10x - x = 9.000...
                                          9x = 9
                                          x = 1

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