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  • K Kenneth Haugland

    I have already text files over 2.2 GB so I think you'll have to delete them as you gom at least that's what I do. And I think using bytes is cheating :laugh: also I didn't know that 3 would be the highest number. I don't think is enough not if you start at 3,4,5 or any other number, at least I got some 5 then. Or my code was wrong.

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    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

    I don't think is enough not if you start at 3,4,5 or any other number, at least I got some 5 then.

    Whatever digit you start with will always be in the last position. No other digit will exceed 3, no matter how many iterations you try. For example, if in iteration n you get 41, then that means iteration n-1 must have had ...x1111.... But given the rules of the sequence, that would have to be written as either (x+1)1 or 21.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

      I don't think is enough not if you start at 3,4,5 or any other number, at least I got some 5 then.

      Whatever digit you start with will always be in the last position. No other digit will exceed 3, no matter how many iterations you try. For example, if in iteration n you get 41, then that means iteration n-1 must have had ...x1111.... But given the rules of the sequence, that would have to be written as either (x+1)1 or 21.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Ah, yes that makes sense. Also seems to be that the higher the number of iterations the higher of LSB seems to be equal? if you can find that formula you might shorten the calculations by quite a bit.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Oh, it's possible. My machine is sitting here listing the iteration, length, and time to calculate for each of the 100 numbers.

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        So how long did it take? Did you do something in parallell or?

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          So how long did it take? Did you do something in parallell or?

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          I'll say 82 took my machine 59 seconds.

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          • D Dave Kreskowiak

            It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

            1
            11
            21
            1211
            111221
            312211

            The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

            System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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            AVNTizzy
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            Still running...85 minutes in... currently at: Loop 76: Length 881752750

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              Still running...85 minutes in... currently at: Loop 76: Length 881752750

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              Dave Kreskowiak
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              85 MINUTES?! You'll be running this for about a week to get to 100. It can be done a lot quicker than that. The 76th number took 12 seconds on my machine and it's a "nothing special" machine.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                85 MINUTES?! You'll be running this for about a week to get to 100. It can be done a lot quicker than that. The 76th number took 12 seconds on my machine and it's a "nothing special" machine.

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                AVNTizzy
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                I thought I would run out ot memory and did it writing to a file...not the smartest idea...now I just can't bring myself to stop the run.

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                  1
                  11
                  21
                  1211
                  111221
                  312211

                  The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                  System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                  1. Strings and string methods are not going to do it. They're too slow and take up too much memory. 2) The only digits you see in any of these numbers are 1, 2, and 3. It seems like a waste to use an entire byte to store each digit. 3) If you graph the math on the progression of the length of these numbers, you'll see that on a LOGARITHMIC SCALE, the graph is about a 40 degree line. What would that look like on a normal X/Y scale? 4) You cannot do this "in memory", without going to the extremes of cleverness, and even then, you'd still need a gargantuan amount of RAM.

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    4,326,816,254 to be exact.

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                    GuyThiebaut
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                    Yep - that's the count I get too :thumbsup:

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak
                      1. Strings and string methods are not going to do it. They're too slow and take up too much memory. 2) The only digits you see in any of these numbers are 1, 2, and 3. It seems like a waste to use an entire byte to store each digit. 3) If you graph the math on the progression of the length of these numbers, you'll see that on a LOGARITHMIC SCALE, the graph is about a 40 degree line. What would that look like on a normal X/Y scale? 4) You cannot do this "in memory", without going to the extremes of cleverness, and even then, you'd still need a gargantuan amount of RAM.

                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                      AVNTizzy
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                      Good hints...gonna have another crack at this back home.

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                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                        Well, he did only ask about the length of the 100 th number. So according to Look-and-say sequence - Wikipedia[^]. Dave told us that the 50th number had length:

                        L50 = 894810

                        And the wikipedia article said:

                        L_n+1/L_n= lambda = 1.303577269034

                        so....

                        L50*lambda^(50)= 511175198256

                        if my math is right enough. Very hard programming challange :D

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                        close...about 72 million off...

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak
                          1. Strings and string methods are not going to do it. They're too slow and take up too much memory. 2) The only digits you see in any of these numbers are 1, 2, and 3. It seems like a waste to use an entire byte to store each digit. 3) If you graph the math on the progression of the length of these numbers, you'll see that on a LOGARITHMIC SCALE, the graph is about a 40 degree line. What would that look like on a normal X/Y scale? 4) You cannot do this "in memory", without going to the extremes of cleverness, and even then, you'd still need a gargantuan amount of RAM.

                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          The length of row n won't exceed twice the length of row n-1 , yes? The result is computable, therefore a Turing Machine can compute it, and, because Turing Machines have virtually unlimited storage, simply use one.

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            The length of row n won't exceed twice the length of row n-1 , yes? The result is computable, therefore a Turing Machine can compute it, and, because Turing Machines have virtually unlimited storage, simply use one.

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                            You build the machine and I'll go make the infinite paper tape.

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                              1
                              11
                              21
                              1211
                              111221
                              312211

                              The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                              System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              The spec isn't clear! Send it back! :wtf: As this is, in essence, a compression algorithm, at line 8->9 (according to the OEIS) I would do:

                              1113213211

                              11 132132 11 <== three subsequences

                              21 2132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

                              Which is shorter than their naive result of:

                              1113213211

                              111 3 2 1 3 2 11 <== seven subsequences

                              31 13 12 11 13 12 21 <== seven outputs, fourteen digits

                              A 40% saving. The complexity of the algorithm increases due to seeking how to split the input into the fewest subsequences of some repetition length (1 in the naive implementation).

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                1
                                11
                                21
                                1211
                                111221
                                312211

                                The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                                Dave Kreskowiak

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                                User 13520686
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                                340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  The spec isn't clear! Send it back! :wtf: As this is, in essence, a compression algorithm, at line 8->9 (according to the OEIS) I would do:

                                  1113213211

                                  11 132132 11 <== three subsequences

                                  21 2132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

                                  Which is shorter than their naive result of:

                                  1113213211

                                  111 3 2 1 3 2 11 <== seven subsequences

                                  31 13 12 11 13 12 21 <== seven outputs, fourteen digits

                                  A 40% saving. The complexity of the algorithm increases due to seeking how to split the input into the fewest subsequences of some repetition length (1 in the naive implementation).

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                                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                                  When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

                                  1113213211

                                  11 132132 11 <== 13?

                                  21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

                                  What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

                                  1113213211

                                  111 32132 11

                                  31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

                                  There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

                                  System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                    340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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                                    Nope, not even close.

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                                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                      When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

                                      1113213211

                                      11 132132 11 <== 13?

                                      21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

                                      What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

                                      1113213211

                                      111 32132 11

                                      31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

                                      There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

                                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                      What happened to the 13?

                                      There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

                                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                      How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

                                      Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

                                      (1,1)
                                      (2,1)
                                      ...
                                      (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
                                      ...

                                      The question is about only the number of digits.

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                                      • U User 13520686

                                        340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        What base? The length is 10 -- in some base I haven't determined yet.

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                                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                          1
                                          11
                                          21
                                          1211
                                          111221
                                          312211

                                          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                          So I stored booleans in a file:

                                          string Morris(int S, int N)
                                          {
                                          string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
                                          using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                          {
                                          writer.Write(S > 2);
                                          writer.Write(S == 2);
                                          }

                                                  for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                                                  {
                                                      Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
                                          
                                                      using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                                                      {
                                                          int count = 1;
                                                          bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                                          bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                          
                                                          bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                                          
                                                          using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                                          {
                                                              while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                                              {
                                                                  nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                                                  nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                          
                                                                  if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                                                  {
                                                                      count++;
                                                                  }
                                                                  else
                                                                  {
                                                                      writer.Write(count > 2);
                                                                      writer.Write(count == 2);
                                                                      writer.Write(currMSB);
                                                                      writer.Write(currLSB);
                                          
                                                                      currMSB = nextMSB;
                                                                      currLSB = nextLSB;
                                                                      count = 1;
                                                                  }
                                          
                                                              }
                                                              writer.Write(count > 2);
                                                              writer.Write(count == 2);
                                                              writer.Write(currMSB);
                                                              writer.Write(currLSB);
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                          
                                                      File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                                                      System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                                                      System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                                                  }
                                          
                                          
                                                  StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                                                  using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
                                          
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