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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Lost User
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    Says all you need to know! Pink Floyd Reunion - Time - YouTube[^]

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      GKP1992
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      Are humans the only ones affected by time?

      I am not the one who knocks. I never knock. In fact, I hate knocking.

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      • R raddevus

        In the future time is outmoded. Once things happen fast enough* time stops because all things are complete at once. I think it occurs when your download speeds hit 1PBPS (Petabit). :rolleyes: *Think about that too... Two Ways To Stop Time Make everything happen so fast it all happens at once: time stops. Make everything happen so slowly that nothing happens: time stops. :cool:

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        GKP1992
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        The rate of completion of a task is determined by it's slowest contributor :laugh:

        I am not the one who knocks. I never knock. In fact, I hate knocking.

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        • W W Balboos GHB

          Consider if the universe were an absolute void. I would put forward that time doesn't exist because nothing happens and nothing can happen. This is the ultimate in a stateless condition. Now, as soon as there is something, or better yet, somethings, the possibility of time becomes more and more a mandatory consequence.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          GKP1992
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          If it is an absolute void, there is nobody to observe what is (not)happening. If there is an observer, it is not an absolute void. Paradoxical isn't it? Edit: You seem to agree with this in later messages. :-D

          I am not the one who knocks. I never knock. In fact, I hate knocking.

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            Says all you need to know! Pink Floyd Reunion - Time - YouTube[^]

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            How did they synchronize all those moving clocks? :confused:

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              dietmar paul schoder
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              If mankind wasn't there to perceive the universe, would it still exist? See also 'constructivism' - [Constructivist epistemology - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivist\_epistemology)

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                How did they synchronize all those moving clocks? :confused:

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                Lost User
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                😂😂 I thought it was quite good the way the different concerts were spliced together to form the video. Roger Waters never appeared on stage with the rest of the band until 2005 at Live 8.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  iacopovettori
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                  Mankind is not necessary. If I weren't here to perceive it, time wouldn't exist.

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                  • G GKP1992

                    If it is an absolute void, there is nobody to observe what is (not)happening. If there is an observer, it is not an absolute void. Paradoxical isn't it? Edit: You seem to agree with this in later messages. :-D

                    I am not the one who knocks. I never knock. In fact, I hate knocking.

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    I sort of accept that it's not possible to fully comprehend an absolute void. It wouldn't even have a size. Does it, as a void, even constitute an existence? It's paradoxical - but perhaps because our only way to attempt to envision or describe it give it attributes (observations, as you noted) which nullify the "property" of it being a void. You do get the picture - and, going back to the OP, why I think there may not be time if there was only an absolute void. The difficulty for any type of visualization and gedanken experiment make me limit myself to "may not".

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      kalberts
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                      If the only mankind to perceive time were Australian aboriginals living in dreamtime, would time still exist? Would it pass by, or would it have some other sort of structure than purely linear? Or would time be an imaginary dimension?

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        time doesn't exist at all. Newsflash: Time May Not Exist | DiscoverMagazine.com[^]

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                        kalberts
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                        According to Wikipedia, Time has weekly circulation of 3,028,013, so I think we may conclude that it exists.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Slow Eddie
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                          Seems to me that "Time" is a way to measure change in the universe, invented by mankind. It logically follows that if mankind had never been there, it would never have been invented. :~:~:~:~

                          I have been soo wrong about so many things, I could be wrong about this one too.

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            agolddog
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                            Seems like this question works for both the fourth dimension called time and the Pink Floyd song. Is it true that hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way?

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                              Says all you need to know! Pink Floyd Reunion - Time - YouTube[^]

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                              Tipton Tyler
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                              Those guys have really aged - with time. But then again "Does anybody really know what time it is" :-)

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                MSBassSinger
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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                                Man's perception of time comes from recognizing the effects of its existence. Therefore time exists regardless of man.

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  ProfessorDan
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                                  If Time is infinite why am I always running out?

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