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So Florence was a bit of a flop then

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    So, you think that all of this is "overblown"? Or would you rather the message from forcasters and the media be "under-reported" from actual conditions so you can have more people dead from the storm? I, for one, would rather over-prepare for the disaster than scramble at the last minute to try and gather supplies and/or get the out to safety when it's too late. Go read up on hurricane deaths in the past and you'll, hopefully, come to the conclusion that today people would rather be over-prepare and take action earlier for a storm that fizzles out than end up dead in a box for a storm that, by media standards, was "no big deal" but actually turned out worse than reported.

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      no, idiot, it's based on the fact that it's already nearly 20' above flood stage and we know how much water is in the tributaries. National Weather Service Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service[^]

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      Munchies_Matt
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      Good, at least the media haven't exaggerated everything out or all proportion.

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        So, you think that all of this is "overblown"? Or would you rather the message from forcasters and the media be "under-reported" from actual conditions so you can have more people dead from the storm? I, for one, would rather over-prepare for the disaster than scramble at the last minute to try and gather supplies and/or get the out to safety when it's too late. Go read up on hurricane deaths in the past and you'll, hopefully, come to the conclusion that today people would rather be over-prepare and take action earlier for a storm that fizzles out than end up dead in a box for a storm that, by media standards, was "no big deal" but actually turned out worse than reported.

        Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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        Munchies_Matt
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        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        So, you think that all of this is "overblown"

        Did you see the video of the weather journalist pretending to be 'over blown'?

        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        Or would you rather

        Ah, here come the bit where I am ascribed a sentiment I dont hold.

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          Good, at least the media haven't exaggerated everything out or all proportion.

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          the entire south-east part of the state is under water, you fucking moron. https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2018-09-16-florence-forecast-rain-flood-carolinas-virginia-west-virginia[^]

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            the entire south-east part of the state is under water, you fucking moron. https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2018-09-16-florence-forecast-rain-flood-carolinas-virginia-west-virginia[^]

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Wow, such vitriol. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: Where did I say there wassnt flooding? Ah right, I didnt. Now who is the moron?

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              Wow, such vitriol. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: Where did I say there wassnt flooding? Ah right, I didnt. Now who is the moron?

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              Chris Losinger
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              fuck off, troll. this is a total disaster for millions of people. grow the fuck up.

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                fuck off, troll. this is a total disaster for millions of people. grow the fuck up.

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                Munchies_Matt
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                I win. :) Sad eh, when ones ability to reason is so affected.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  I win. :) Sad eh, when ones ability to reason is so affected.

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                  Chris Losinger
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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  I win.

                  in case anyone had any doubt that you're trolling.

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                    Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."

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                    David ONeil
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                    Please, just effin' stop this shit. It is bad enough dealing with family members who want to espouse vitriol and hatred over politics and religion, including their denial of global warming. Coming here and seeing you do the same gets quite old.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                      So, you think that all of this is "overblown"

                      Did you see the video of the weather journalist pretending to be 'over blown'?

                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                      Or would you rather

                      Ah, here come the bit where I am ascribed a sentiment I dont hold.

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      Well, it's either going to be over-reported or under-reported. Very rarely is a weather event, and it's impacts, ever reported "dead on". You're complaining that it's over-reported, so that leaves the only other option.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        I win.

                        in case anyone had any doubt that you're trolling.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        Actually I wasn't, but I am sure you don't want to see it that way.

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                          Please, just effin' stop this shit. It is bad enough dealing with family members who want to espouse vitriol and hatred over politics and religion, including their denial of global warming. Coming here and seeing you do the same gets quite old.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Take it to the soapbox and I will reply properly.

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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            Well, it's either going to be over-reported or under-reported. Very rarely is a weather event, and it's impacts, ever reported "dead on". You're complaining that it's over-reported, so that leaves the only other option.

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            It is the almost vampiresque glee with which the media, and other agencies, over hype these events which I am getting at.

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                              It is the almost vampiresque glee with which the media, and other agencies, over hype these events which I am getting at.

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              Yeah, and they are over-hyped for the reasons of safety and preparedness. Going the other way results in more people dying from these events. Seriously, go read a book about hurricane deaths and forecasting.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."

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                                Kevin Marois
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                                Tell that to the 17 people who died

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                  Take it to the soapbox and I will reply properly.

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                                  David ONeil
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                                  Why would I stoop to your level? Seems rather pointless to me. I asked you to please stop, and that's all I intend to do. Please stop.

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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    1-year-old boy swept away by floodwaters in North Carolina - CBS News[^]

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                                      Tell that to the 17 people who died

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      Chris Losinger
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                                      23 now

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        Family speaks after 3-month-old killed when tree falls on mobile home in Gaston County[^]

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                                        • D David ONeil

                                          Why would I stoop to your level? Seems rather pointless to me. I asked you to please stop, and that's all I intend to do. Please stop.

                                          The forgotten roots of science | C++ Programming | DWinLib

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          You assumed I 'deny' global warming. If you want a sensible discussion about I will gladly oblige, if all you want is childish insults then dont bother.

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