I'm completely disillusioned with hardware manufacturers
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Chris Maunder wrote:
We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs.
I'm not sure. I've tried writing code on a tablet - the Nexus 7 and the WookieTab - and it's been a miserable experience, all because of the keyboard. You think the Macbook Pro KB is bad? Try it on tablet! Particularly if you are a touch (or even a fast multi finger) typist it's a major exercise in frustration. And while predictive input on Android is great for letters, posts, SMS, and email it elephants your code like nobody's business. Just the auto capitalisation after a "." is enough to drive you to the arms of a "proper keyboard" ... I don't think we'll move to tablet / phone until we find a better input method - and the first person to suggest "voice input" should be defenestrated...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
defenestrated
I've been thinking of moving away from windows for a while now... Speaking of typing on a tablet, the iOS thing where it constantly selects random words while you're typing which causes you to type over words or whole sentences is mind boggling.
cheers Chris Maunder
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Quite right, it won't happen. Because perfect differs from person to person. So every manufacturer tries to create the best compromise for their aiming group. Which is at best, acceptable for part of your use. That's why I've learned to love the docking station.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Quite right, it won't happen. Because perfect differs from person to person. So every manufacturer tries to create the best compromise for their aiming group. Which is at best, acceptable for part of your use. That's why I've learned to love the docking station.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
As long as it's a USB-C docking station (Oh, and to make it easier for everyone they don't need to make a laptop that's perfect for everyone. Perfect for me is good enough ;P)
cheers Chris Maunder
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As long as it's a USB-C docking station (Oh, and to make it easier for everyone they don't need to make a laptop that's perfect for everyone. Perfect for me is good enough ;P)
cheers Chris Maunder
Mine is to old, but the next generatin actually is.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
But will it be rack-mountable?
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
To the soapbox with you! ;P *sigh* It seems so easy in concept, but execution is always lacking.
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
Yep... Your phone will melt in your hand! ;P All these iAnythings make me miss my Altair. :sigh:
Will Rogers never met me.
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now,
Taking this where I tend to take most things, I think the only hope you have for a perfect laptop will be found in a bar, complete with dancer. Cheers cheers cheers!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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But will it be rack-mountable?
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables
USB 3.0 offers only 5V at 500 mA (USB 2.0) to 900 mA (USB 3.0). That's 2,5 W - 4.5 W. That's not very much when it comes to charging batteries. Your battery will most probably need a higher voltage and also a slightly higher current, both which USB can't deliver. Just for comparison: I charge my 5000 mAh batteries with about 25V and 5A (= 125 W) and it still takes an hour. Edit: The battery of a Macbook Pro is rated at 10.9V, 5500 mAh. USB is a little underpowered for that.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
defenestrated
I've been thinking of moving away from windows for a while now... Speaking of typing on a tablet, the iOS thing where it constantly selects random words while you're typing which causes you to type over words or whole sentences is mind boggling.
cheers Chris Maunder
Don't you move away from the window very rapidly when you have been defenestrated?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables
USB 3.0 offers only 5V at 500 mA (USB 2.0) to 900 mA (USB 3.0). That's 2,5 W - 4.5 W. That's not very much when it comes to charging batteries. Your battery will most probably need a higher voltage and also a slightly higher current, both which USB can't deliver. Just for comparison: I charge my 5000 mAh batteries with about 25V and 5A (= 125 W) and it still takes an hour. Edit: The battery of a Macbook Pro is rated at 10.9V, 5500 mAh. USB is a little underpowered for that.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
His computer has a USB-C connector. (USB 3.1+) It can transfer a minimum of 60W, and optionally more depending on the cable
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
I too wish Apple would narrow the development gap between their iPad and Mac products. I'm playing around with MonoGame and considering an Apple version of my game. Regrettably, as I understand it, I need to purchase a Mac for this task. I wouldn't mind getting an iPad, which would serve other purposes, but I have no other use for a Mac. Oh well...if I can figure out the minimum required Mac, maybe I'll pick up a dinosaur off eBay.
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I too wish Apple would narrow the development gap between their iPad and Mac products. I'm playing around with MonoGame and considering an Apple version of my game. Regrettably, as I understand it, I need to purchase a Mac for this task. I wouldn't mind getting an iPad, which would serve other purposes, but I have no other use for a Mac. Oh well...if I can figure out the minimum required Mac, maybe I'll pick up a dinosaur off eBay.
Or is a hackintosh still an option?
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now
Youngster. I've been waiting 30 years for a laptop that's better than "it didn't suck." BTW, for a basic tablet, I really like the Surface Go.
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So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.
cheers Chris Maunder
Not quite a laptop but ... kaypro portable [^]
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Or is a hackintosh still an option?
Maybe...not sure. Though, in case I ever decide to throw it onto their App Store, I don't think I want to risk the licensing cops coming after me :) From what I understand, you can pick up a used Mac cheap enough...simply don't want to go through the hassle for a single-purpose (for me) device. Originally, I hoped I could purchase a legit macOS license and run it in a VM...oh well, wishful thinking. I guess I've been spoiled by Android. Simply fire up an emulator for free or purchase a device that is almost free. Sometimes I wonder if Apple is actively discouraging independent developers.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now
Youngster. I've been waiting 30 years for a laptop that's better than "it didn't suck." BTW, for a basic tablet, I really like the Surface Go.
…at least they've gotten better than that stone tablet (and chisel) we used to lug around :)
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…at least they've gotten better than that stone tablet (and chisel) we used to lug around :)
You were lucky to have a stone tablet and chisel; we had....
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Not quite a laptop but ... kaypro portable [^]
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
My older brother used one of those for a while (he bought it from a neighbor after I sold my Apple II+ to buy a car.) The first portable computer I used on a non-trivial basis was a Toshiba 3100[^]. It was heavy (16 pounds), but lighter than the Kaypro II (29 pounds).
